So...is the term "extended arm bar" unclear?

[Eastshire]

There's nothing wrong with communicating with your partners that you have counted the players. If there's one thing we can learn from soccer referee Graham Poll, it's not to assume you or your partners can count to two.

I have never seen a one-handed stop signal that could be mistaken for the pre-time chop signal. The first is done shoulder height with the arm extended to the front; the second with the arm fully extended above the head. No reasonable person is going to mistake these two signals.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I have never seen a one-handed stop signal that could be mistaken for the pre-time chop signal. The first is done shoulder height with the arm extended to the front; the second with the arm fully extended above the head. No reasonable person is going to mistake these two signals.

If those two signals were universal, that would be true. However, i see as many people who use a hand straight up for both as have a difference in the signals.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If those two signals were universal, that would be true. However, i see as many people who use a hand straight up for both as have a difference in the signals.

Fair enough. Personally, I've never seen someone use the same signal for both.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Fair enough. Personally, I've never seen someone use the same signal for both.

I've seen plenty of officials who just walk around with their hand in the air when bringing in subs, not pointed in any general direction.

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[UNIgiantslayers]

I don't think I've ever had an issue with this situation. The guys on my crew are pretty good at eye contact and a nod or a point if they're ready. Usually if they're calling a sub in, waiting for a tied shoe, etc. they are looking in that direction. I can't think of many cases where I put the ball in play without eye contact and a nod.