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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:40am
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:16am
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I was bewildered last week to see bonus shot on an offensive foul in my son's HS JV game. I started by thinking, wow, that rule changed a *long* time ago . . . then it dawned on me it wasn't just an offensive foul, it was a player control foul. As far as I know, that was never a bonus opportunity . . . some of these JV games are quite an adventure (and others are quite well officiated, quite a spectrum). . .
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:37am
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:03pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
Cause they're JV Officials.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:05pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
The same way officials at all levels screw it up. They do not slow it down and do not think through the rule.

Many people only think of a TC foul as something that happens during an illegal screen and do not think much more than that situation.

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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:25pm
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How about if an illegal screen happens on a throw in? Do you shoot the bonus then?
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:28pm
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How about if an illegal screen happens on a throw in? Do you shoot the bonus then?
Nope, team control also exists when a team has control of the ball for a throw-in.*

*For fouls only, not backcourt violations.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:41pm
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How about if an illegal screen happens on a throw in? Do you shoot the bonus then?
Really? We have officials out there that don't know this? I know this is my first post, but I felt compelled as it says you have been a member since 2007 and you still don't know this?
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:44pm
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Really? We have officials out there that don't know this? I know this is my first post, but I felt compelled as it says you have been a member since 2007 and you still don't know this?

Read the entire thread before posting dude. The kid explained all of this within the thread


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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 03:55pm
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The same way officials at all levels screw it up. They do not slow it down and do not think through the rule.
Yup. I had this situation Saturday. Ruled a TC foul, reported it, and went to the end line to administer the throw in. The table buzzed me, and the scorekeeper signaled 1-and-1. "No," I replied. "Team control."
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:34pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
Beginners here work JV games. Depends where you live, I guess.
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Beginners here work JV games. Depends where you live, I guess.
Makes sense. Usually don't get JV here until 3rd year. 2nd if you're good/they like you.
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Makes sense. Usually don't get JV here until 3rd year. 2nd if you're good/they like you.
We do not have those kind of restrictions at all. Anyone can work any level of high school if they are assigned it and certainly not a restriction for the most part for any lower level games. Those might be the only officials available for that game.

I have also noticed on this site what we call JV, you might call something else.

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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:51pm
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We do not have those kind of restrictions at all. Anyone can work any level of high school if they are assigned it and certainly not a restriction for the most part for any lower level games. Those might be the only officials available for that game.

I have also noticed on this site what we call JV, you might call something else.

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Probably, and a lot more would make sense. I've never considered Freshman/C squad/etc to be JV.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 03:40pm
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Beginners here work JV games. Depends where you live, I guess.
*wow, that is quite a 'fast-track'! Beginners here get 8th grade boys and girls games; maybe a freshman game in late Jan/February.
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