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Old Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:34am
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Regarding contact on the FT'er (A1): most coaches hold that the FT'er is in a vulnerable position while in the follow-thru part of a FT try--the risk of injury is great when the arms are extended upward and you have (B1) forcefully bumping into the groin of A1 in a box out attempt. A1 has no means of protecting self --so we call a common foul if such contact occurs prior to ball hitting the ring.
Not contact by the defense, contact by teammates as in 10-1-5, and as you described in the first part of your response.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:40pm
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Not contact by the defense, contact by teammates as in 10-1-5, and as you described in the first part of your response.

I believe there is a case play (or at least there used to be) in which the FTer was talking to the coach at the sideline when the administering official was ready to put the ball at the FTer's disposal. I believe that's another example of "contact with the FTer," and one in which no warning for delay is initially given. But truth be told, I've never fully understood what "contact with the FTer" means, either. It is not very well explained.

Having said all of that, I agree with many other posters that this delay and/or technical should be avoided if at all possible. Preventative officiating. Don't complicate things or stir the pot. If it's absurd and you ask them twice and they're blowing you off, then ok. But in 7+ years I've never seen that.


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Old Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:46pm
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I believe there is a case play (or at least there used to be) in which the FTer was talking to the coach at the sideline when the administering official was ready to put the ball at the FTer's disposal. I believe that's another example of "contact with the FTer," and one in which no warning for delay is initially given.
The OP is about 10-1-5(d) (Team Tech).

Your situation is about 10-3-5(c) (Player Tech).

Not the same.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:00pm
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The OP is about 10-1-5(d) (Team Tech).



Your situation is about 10-3-5(c) (Player Tech).



Not the same.

You're right. Good catch, thanks.


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