fouling the free thrower

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree, but what about that once in a lifetime occurrence where the defensive player excitedly jumps the gun (freshman first time coming off the bench to play in a varsity game), can't hold back, and bumps (creates a disadvantage) into the free throw shooter (second of two free throws) while said player is in the act of shooting before the ball is released. It's ruled a foul against a player in the act of shooting a free throw, it's not ruled intentional, nor is it ruled flagrant.

Shot goes in. What's the penalty?

Shot misses. What's the penalty?

Citation please.

10-5 PENALTIES:
2. One free throw if fouled in the act of shooting and two- or three-point try or tap is successful.
5. Fouled in act of shooting and try or tap is unsuccessful:
a. Two free throws on two-point try or tap.
b. Three free throws on three-point try or tap.

What about a one-point try?

i'll take a stab at it--4-19-2 says a common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player trying for a FIELD goal....The FT shooter in your example is in the act of shooting but not for a field goal. 4-41-2 says a try for FIELD Goal is attempt to score 2 or 3 points. The FT shooter in the act of shooting meets the definition of a common foul in your example.
As you point out there is no specific penalty listed in 10-5 Penalties for fouling a FT shooter who is in the act like there is when player is trying for field goal. I think that supports conclusion that your example is a common foul. (you have said it wasnt intentional or flagrant)

i havnt sat and thought it through and through so maybe im missing something obvious etc. note--i can maybe see a foul in the act of shooting not being intentional or flagrant if the FT shooter jumps during the shot. He releases ball and is fouled just before landing. However, the player fouling a FT shooter before releasing the ball has to get in so early to get to the FT shooter it will be intentional, at least, (excessive contact) imo.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

As you point out there is no specific penalty listed in 10-5 Penalties for fouling a FT shooter who is in the act like there is when player is trying for field goal.

Bingo.

So, if the shot goes in, does he get another for being fouled in the act for shooting, as with a field goal?

And, if the shot misses does he get a replacement shot for the delayed violation; or does he get another free throw for being fouled in the act of shooting, and missing; or does he get two additional shots for both the violation, and the foul?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Bingo.

So, if the shot goes in, does he get another for being fouled in the act for shooting, as with a field goal?

And, if the shot misses does he get a replacement shot for the delayed violation; or does he get another free throw for being fouled in the act of shooting, and missing; or does he get two additional shots for both the violation, and the foul (I doubt this scenario, but would still like to study the possibility)?

If anyone fouls a free throw shooter in the act of shooting, anything less than an intentional foul is ludicrous.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If anyone fouls a free throw shooter in the act of shooting, anything less than an intentional foul is ludicrous.

4-19-3:An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. Intentional fouls include, but are not limited to: a. Contact that neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position.

For this reason (red, above)? I can certainly go along with that. Also makes the penalty easy to administer (intentional foul penalty).