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Old Sun Nov 08, 2015, 01:58pm
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I don't blame the jv guys for grumbling; why should they subsidize the varsity guys?. I work a lot of varsity but still work some lower level stuff too and I wouldn't work a 2 person HS jv game for $45. You work harder doing a 2 person sophomore boys game than you do working a 3 person boys varsity game.
More running maybe, but not more scrutiny or even pressure. There is a lot more to doing a varsity game than there is often doing a lower level game, which might not include all areas of the rules or administrative situations.

I think the varsity should be paid much more every single time. When a lower level game is scheduled on its own, it often does not have as many fans and in some cases is not even a charge to attend. That might be different in Mississippi or other states/areas, but that is pretty much the case here.

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More running maybe, but not more scrutiny or even pressure. There is a lot more to doing a varsity game than there is often doing a lower level game, which might not include all areas of the rules or administrative situations.

I think the varsity should be paid much more every single time. When a lower level game is scheduled on its own, it often does not have as many fans and in some cases is not even a charge to attend. That might be different in Mississippi or other states/areas, but that is pretty much the case here.

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I personally find it easier to work a varsity game with 3 officials. Yes there is more scrutiny but I don't stress out about that, it's still just a high school basketball game not life or death. Varsity games generally have a better flow and are more predictable in my opinion because the level of play is better. JV games are often a real train wreck. As for the number of fans in the stands who cares? I rarely hear them anyway.
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Old Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:31pm
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I've argued for a long time that this should happen. Those who improve will work varsity. Those who are happy working lower level ball (here that means closer to home) shouldn't get paid close to what V officials get paid.
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Old Sat Nov 07, 2015, 08:05pm
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It's not about the time or effort.

If you want the checks, work the varsity level.
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Old Sat Nov 07, 2015, 09:39pm
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At one time I missed the extra money I'd make working a Frosh/JV DH. However, I take pride in being a varsity official, so the extra money doesn't mean anything to me. Not to mention that fewer schools even have Frosh teams anymore.

By the way, in no way am I saying those officials that work sub-varsity games are "beneath" me and other varsity officials. If they are happy doing that, then great. We need good officials at those games too. But at least have some pride in what you do, and do your best for the players, coaches, schools, etc. I can't stand officials with the "meh, whatever" attitude.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 10:47pm
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First Louisiana now Mississippi

It's a train wreck nobody cares about. Tell me the next time the JV standings are posted in the local paper. Who won the JV state championship?

Those that do them where I live do so cause they can work 8 dates at the local HS, be done by about 7, and run out the door as fast as they can.

If it were up to me I'd cut their pay another $7.50 each and give each of the varsity officials $5 more.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 11:02pm
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Perhaps going to extremes will help...

If I blow a call at a 3rd grade church league game I may get a little flack, but by the end of the game nobody really cares.

If I blow a call during a varsity game I could very well get a ton of flack, and some people may remember it for years.

Oh, and the chances of your screw-up being caught on video at a varsity game is much... MUCH... higher.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 11:16pm
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Paying sub-varsity officials anything near what varsity officials are paid on the basis that "2-man crews work harder" is absolutely laughable.
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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:04am
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Paying sub-varsity officials anything near what varsity officials are paid on the basis that "2-man crews work harder" is absolutely laughable.
If the 2 vs 3 logic were true, then HS officials in 2-person states should make more than college officials.
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