Tipped 3 Point Shot

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Chin Ref
just like the NBA, the NF modified the FIBA rules.

Was the FIBA code in place before the NBA?!?! Hard to believe.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
So A1 attempts a try from behind the 3-point arc. B1 jumps from just inside the 3-point arc and partially blocks the try. The ball enters the basket. You are only going to award 2 points?!?! That seems really silly to me.

It's seems silly?

You're too kind.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

It's seems silly?

You're too kind.

Well, I did say it seems really silly.

[Jay R]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

So A1 attempts a try from behind the 3-point arc. B1 jumps from just inside the 3-point arc and partially blocks the try. The ball enters the basket. You are only going to award 2 points?!?! That seems really silly to me.

Hey Chuck, that was one of my questions on my little FIBA quiz a while back. Most of you ignored it, I was NOT surprised.

I am curious if the FIBA rules are older or younger than NBA, NCAA or NF rules. Obviously the game was invented in the USA (by a Canadian I might add), I would assumed that FIBA rules do not pre-date "American" rules. Does anyone know this history?

[ref18]

Why do all my posts end up in an argument between people who use FIBA and people who use the American Rules?

[ChuckElias]

ref18, I really don't mean to argue. That's the rule, and that's how you should call it if you work with FIBA rules. I just don't think it's fair to judge the value of the shot on where the defender last touched the floor. I think it makes more sense to judge the value of the shot by where the shooter last touched the floor.

I think I see the logic of the FIBA interp, I just don't think it's the fairest interp.

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I think I see the logic of the FIBA interp, I just don't think it's the fairest interp.

... and I never even plan on seeing that play.
mick

[BktBallRef]

So, if a 3 pointer is bouncing on the rim, a defender jumps, taps it, which is legal, and it still goes in, it's not worth 3 points?

[Jay R]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
So, if a 3 pointer is bouncing on the rim, a defender jumps, taps it, which is legal, and it still goes in, it's not worth 3 points?

Correct.

[Jay R]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
ref18, I really don't mean to argue. That's the rule, and that's how you should call it if you work with FIBA rules. I just don't think it's fair to judge the value of the shot on where the defender last touched the floor. I think it makes more sense to judge the value of the shot by where the shooter last touched the floor.

I think I see the logic of the FIBA interp, I just don't think it's the fairest interp.

Let me play the devil's advocate. A defender (NCAA) slaps the backboard, the shot rolls off the rim as the rim is still vibrating. Basket interference? No. Is that the fairest interpretation?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jay R
Let me play the devil's advocate. A defender (NCAA) slaps the backboard, the shot rolls off the rim as the rim is still vibrating. Basket interference? No. Is that the fairest interpretation?

Interesting point, Jay. I think it's a fair interpretation, b/c we have another rule in place that allows us to give the offense a chance at those two points.

We don't call BI or GT, b/c it technically doesn't fit the definition. But we can assess a technical foul, which gives the offense the opportunity to score those two points.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by mick
... and I never even plan on seeing that play.
mick

mick, you can't see a 3-point shot being partially blocked and still going in the basket? I don't think it's quite as improbable as you make it sound.

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

mick, you can't see a 3-point shot being partially blocked and still going in the basket? I don't think it's quite as improbable as you make it sound.

No. Can't see it. Can't imagine it.
My mind still works from time to time, but I am left-handed, ya know.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Interesting point, Jay. I think it's a fair interpretation, b/c we have another rule in place that allows us to give the offense a chance at those two points.

Perhaps Jay was referring to a situation involving a try for 3 points.

Far be it from me, however, to bring up that can of worms again . . . .

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Jay R

Let me play the devil's advocate. A defender (NCAA) slaps the backboard, the shot rolls off the rim as the rim is still vibrating. Basket interference? No. Is that the fairest interpretation?

While I don't necessarily agree with this rule, it's not nearly as absurd as as the FIBA rule on a blocked 3 point shot.