At our meeting tonight, a play was brought up where A1 makes a pass from behind the arc, it is tipped by a B player in the 2 point zone, while the ball is going up. The ball goes in, is this a 2 point or a 3 point goal?

Count three points scored.Casebook play 5.2.1SitC(b).

Thanks

You're welcome.

What if a normal attempt of 3 but tipped by a defensive player from inside the arc and it goes in. 2 or 3?
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Hmmm...ask yourself this. If a pass tipped by a defender inside the arc is 3 points, then why wouldn't a normal 3 point attempt, tipped by a defender be worth 3 points? :confused:

I thought it's because the last position held by the defender who touched the ball, was in 2-pt area. Pls advice.

Chin,
Look at 5.2.1 C in your casebook.

Where the defender legally(i.e.-on the way up)touches the ball has absolutely no bearing in regards as to whether the player will score 2 or 3 points.The only concern that you have is whether the offensive player is completely behind the 3 point line when he originally released the ball.The rule(R5-2-1) says that if you shoot,tap or throw the ball from outside the three point line,you will score 3 points as long as the ball does not touch the floor,a teammate or an official.If the ball does touch the floor,teammate or official,the 3 point try ends,by rule(R4-40-4),and if the ball subsequently goes in,the offensive team can only score 2 points(as long as the ball goes through the basket before time runs out in the quarter). Naturally,if the defender <B>illegally</B> touches the ball(basket interference or goaltending),you would award 2 or 3 points dependant on where the offensive player was when he originally released the ball.

Make sense?

Thank you JR & Nevadaref. I think I need a most updated rule & casebook. I have a 1998-2002 FIBA handbook with rules, cases & mechanics and I also have an Official Basketball Rules 2000 with rules changed 2003. Pls advice again if I can be able to mail-order the updated book and any video or tape to improve my reffing.

FIBA
 

Chin ref,
Most of the guys on this board are American High School refs using NF rules. Everything these guys wrote about tipped shots is correct for NF rules-but wrong for FIBA rules which you use. Under FIBA rules a tipped 3 point attempt is only worth 2 if the defender jumped from the 2 point area. Likewise if a 2 point attempt is tipped by a defender jumping from the 3 point area and it goes in it will be worth 3 points.(--But I've never seen that happen before and don't expect I will.)

Thank you OC. I'm feeling much better now. BTW, what is NF stands for?

NF
 

NF stands for National Federation of State High School Associations.

These are the rules used by most High Schools (and middle schools) in America.

I see, OC, just like the NBA, the NF modified the FIBA rules.

Re: FIBA
 

So A1 attempts a try from behind the 3-point arc. B1 jumps from just inside the 3-point arc and partially blocks the try. The ball enters the basket. You are only going to award 2 points?!?! That seems really silly to me.