Made Shot, No Foul. Missed Shot, Foul.

[just another ref]

Judging whether the contact created an advantage is everything. Whether or not the shot goes in is not a part of the equation, in my opinion.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Judging whether the contact created an advantage is everything. Whether or not the shot goes in is not a part of the equation, in my opinion.

Agree.

We had a veteran official speak at one of our local board meetings a few years ago. According to him, there should never be "and one" situations, i.e., if the ball goes in, there shouldn't have been a foul called. That's not my philosophy.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree.

We had a veteran official speak at one of our local board meetings a few years ago. According to him, there should never be "and one" situations, i.e., if the ball goes in, there shouldn't have been a foul called. That's not my philosophy.

Like you, I strongly disagree with that philosophy. Being able to still make the shot is not normally a factor in whether there was a foul. Making the attempt more difficult can be the advantage gained, not the prevention of the shot going in. Sometimes, it just goes in out of luck.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Judging whether the contact created an advantage is everything. Whether or not the shot goes in is not a part of the equation, in my opinion.

I agree with this totally, I do however believe that we can look at the shot the offensive player got off for clues as to whether contact put them at a disadvantage. An offensive player who is bumped and then continues with a clean step and layup which just happens to miss doesn't automatically trigger a foul for me.

Along the same lines, I have come in with a late whistle on a jump shot when I don't "think" the player got hit but there was a possibility and then the shot ends up 5 feet short. (This only happened when I was out of position just this one time...)