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Old Sat Jul 04, 2015, 03:45pm
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Does it matter which way a pitcher turns when he tries to pick a runner at second?
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Old Sat Jul 04, 2015, 03:54pm
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Does it matter which way a pitcher turns when he tries to pick a runner at second?
No. The inside move and outside move are both legal.
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Old Sun Jul 05, 2015, 07:52am
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Heck, he could do a cartwheel or a backflip, if he wanted to.
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Heck, he could...
As long it as it wasn't an attempt to deceive the runner or make a travesty of the game. Oh, wait...
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 07:46am
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Heck, he could do a cartwheel or a backflip, if he wanted to.
Backflip, not legal. Backflip with 1/2 twist - legal. After all he has step toward the base with his non pivot foot....
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As long it as it wasn't an attempt to deceive the runner or make a travesty of the game. Oh, wait...
Deceiving the runner is part of the pitcher's job. A properly executed pick off always involves deceiving the runner. The question is was the deception legal or illegal.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 07:23pm
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According to the MHSAA office in E. Lansing, Mi without disengaging it is impossible for a pitcher to spin clockwise without making a movement towards home, therefore , their interpretation is that a clockwise spin constitutes a balk
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 07:26pm
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oops! I meant counterclockwise
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 09:58pm
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The MHSAA office should get out of the office and watch some baseball.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 10:16pm
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The MHSAA office should get out of the office and watch some baseball.
And should stop at Walmart on the way to buy three clues for a dollar.
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Old Mon Jul 06, 2015, 10:29pm
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According to the MHSAA office in E. Lansing, Mi without disengaging it is impossible for a pitcher to spin clockwise without making a movement towards home, therefore , their interpretation is that a clockwise spin constitutes a balk
Besides the general counterintuitiveness of this position wouldn't it matter which hand the pitcher was throwing with which way they couldn't spin?
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The MHSAA office should get out of the office and watch some baseball.

As both OhioHSAA and MichiganHSAA registered baseball umpires, but MTD, Jr., and I concur with your assessment. We have seen it at least a half a dozen times this year in both Ohio and Michigan.

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Besides the general counterintuitiveness of this position wouldn't it matter which hand the pitcher was throwing with which way they couldn't spin?
Yep. Shows they need one more clue.

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Old Tue Jul 07, 2015, 03:27am
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Does it matter which way a pitcher turns when he tries to pick a runner at second?
There just can't be a hesitation toward first.

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According to the MHSAA office in E. Lansing, Mi without disengaging it is impossible for a pitcher to spin clockwise without making a movement towards home, therefore , their interpretation is that a clockwise spin constitutes a balk
Are you sure they don't mean *after* picking up the pivot foot (toward the balance point; for a RH pitcher)?

Otherwise, I agree with the rest of the comments.
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