2 rules i ran into this weekend

[yankeesfan]

1. we had a balk on the pitcher with a man on third, pitch was called a strike. is this a delayed dead ball? obviously runner gets third but does the strike count with the batter?

2. after a home run hit over the fence, the batter was given a high five by the 3rd base coach as he rounded the bag and by a teammate just before he touches the plate, is the batter out?

we are using major league rules in this tournament. i would like to know the rules in both mlb and nfhs. thanks

[yankeesfan]

in situation 1, runner was on second and was awarded third on the balk. i made a typo.

[dash_riprock]

1. In your case, the ball is dead when the pitch is caught (OBR). It's immediately dead on the balk (NFHS). Move the runner, cancel the pitch (both).

2. No (both).

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

1. we had a balk on the pitcher with a man on third, pitch was called a strike. is this a delayed dead ball? obviously runner gets third but does the strike count with the batter?

2. after a home run hit over the fence, the batter was given a high five by the 3rd base coach as he rounded the bag and by a teammate just before he touches the plate, is the batter out?

we are using major league rules in this tournament. i would like to know the rules in both mlb and nfhs. thanks

If the umpires in your tournament ruled this way you should retitle your post to:
"2 clowns I ran into this weekend."

[yankeesfan]

Originally Posted by umpjim

If the umpires in your tournament ruled this way you should retitle your post to:
"2 clowns I ran into this weekend."

i am sad to say that they did. they took away a home run from a 11 year old that hit an absolute bomb. i am an umpire myself and was very embarrassed for them.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

i am sad to say that they did. they took away a home run from a 11 year old that hit an absolute bomb. i am an umpire myself and was very embarrassed for them.

Oh well, it happens. I'm sure the 11 year old won't be scarred for life. He'll probably hit a lot more of them.

But the real question in my mind is: Did the player's manager protest the call?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Oh well, it happens. I'm sure the 11 year old won't be scarred for life. He'll probably hit a lot more of them.

But the real question in my mind is: Did the player's manager protest the call?

You hit the nail on the head, Manny.

So easy to complain about bad umpires after the fact. But most of those guys don't get better because they go home thinking they got it all right. Unless a supervisor happens to be watching when they screw up, they don't get better.

I wish coaches would protest calls when they have a case ... like in this one.

[Robmoz]

I agree about the protest option....I assume no need to protest calling a strike on a balk unless it caused a strikeout but certainly would have to protest the HR takeaway...get your $100 bill out and have them call the UIC or TD before the next pitch.

[MDUmp]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You hit the nail on the head, Manny.

So easy to complain about bad umpires after the fact. But most of those guys don't get better because they go home thinking they got it all right. Unless a supervisor happens to be watching when they screw up, they don't get better.

I wish coaches would protest calls when they have a case ... like in this one.

I wish umpires (the ones getting paid and not volunteering) would learn the rules.

[Tim C]

Gosh, I wish Mitch Williams was on the offended team in each of these plays.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

we are using major league rules in this tournament.

So, you can only use wood bats, eh?