Never Heard This One Before

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Matt

I assume you realize that you were baiting the hell out of PU, right? (And I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing.) Just remember that you're playing with fire on that.

And he deserves it, too. He started it by saying, "I was waiting for a clean catch." Why bother making a comment at all? Just call the damn pitch, then go back and take a drink of Gatorade.

[Rich]

Umpire seems to be an idiot.

Coach seems to be a rat.

News at 11.

[bob jenkins]

Sounds like the umpire was trying to apply a high-level-ball rule-of-thumb as an absolute in a low-level game.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sounds like the umpire was trying to apply a high-level-ball rule-of-thumb as an absolute in a low-level game.

How high-level-ball?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

How high-level-ball?

the higher the level, the more emphasis is put on the catcher.

sure -- if it's right down the middle and boxed to the ground, it's still a strike.

But if F2 is inside and has to reach all the way to the corner and the ball tips off his glove, -- that's probably going to be a ball (even if it caught the corner) in NCAA and pro ball.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But if F2 is inside and has to reach all the way to the corner and the ball tips off his glove, -- that's probably going to be a ball (even if it caught the corner) in NCAA and pro ball.

And some umpires won't call that a strike even if the catcher is able to catch it.

It's really a self-preservation kind of thing, if you believe in that, that has gained some acceptance. A pitch won't appear to be in the zone when the catcher can't catch it, or has to reach way over to do so. Many umpires will call it a ball, and will very likely not hear anything from the defense. If they call it a strike, they WILL hear it from the offense.

[Out]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But if F2 is inside and has to reach all the way to the corner and the ball tips off his glove, -- that's probably going to be a ball (even if it caught the corner) in NCAA and pro ball.

but true. Calling the plate is so not de rigueur

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Rich

Umpire seems to be an idiot.

Coach seems to be a rat.

News at 11.

So how would you suggest "discussing" a jaw-dropping comment from a game official?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

So how would you suggest "discussing" a jaw-dropping comment from a game official?

What purpose does it serve to do anything? He called it a strike. Walk back to the dugout.

Even the OP isn't saying he thinks the pitch WASN'T in the strike zone, was he?

[jTheUmp]

Wait... the PU started the conversation with "I was waiting for a clean catch"?



Why say anything at all? STFU and let the coach start the conversation if there needs to be one.

And, for the record, I don't care one way or the other if F2 catches the pitch. If it's a strike, it's a strike.