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David B Mon Mar 03, 2014 06:15pm
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 925331)
Right. You wouldn't like working with me or all of my regular HS/college partners, then.
yep

Thanks
David

CT1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 08:33am
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 925327)
Scratching CT1 as my potential partner on Arbiter...
For all you know, we may have already worked together. I've done some games in Texas.

CT1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 08:34am
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 925331)
Right. You wouldn't like working with me or all of my regular HS/college partners, then.
You're right about that. I prefer to umpire in short sleeves.

CT1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 08:39am
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 925366)
And why in the pros you see someone other than the BU call a balk.
Huh? I guess you meant to type "PU", rather than "BU". Typical.

MD Longhorn Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:42am
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925595)
For all you know, we may have already worked together. I've done some games in Texas.
If you told me not to call balks from the B position, I'd have remembered you. Seeing as how the responses to you were unanimous, I'm hoping you change your opinion on the matter.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 04, 2014 01:34pm
It was some old-school thiniking that had "BU watches the feet, PU watches the hands" (or maybe it was the other way arond -- I forget).

Most organizations have gone away from that. And, it's true that some are more easily seen from one position or another, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't get it if you see it.

Rich Tue Mar 04, 2014 01:37pm
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925596)
You're right about that. I prefer to umpire in short sleeves.
Hey, good for you. I like breaking out the plate coat. Do you tell the base umpire how to call half swings, too?

JRutledge Tue Mar 04, 2014 01:42pm
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925597)
Huh? I guess you meant to type "PU", rather than "BU". Typical.
So you got me on that one, but still does not change the fact your position and very antiquated on many levels. But if that is how you roll, more power to you. I just would not do what you suggest if I was working with you and would wounder why you cannot do your job and stick to some silly way to umpire.

Peace

Manny A Tue Mar 04, 2014 02:24pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 925650)
It was some old-school thiniking that had "BU watches the feet, PU watches the hands" (or maybe it was the other way arond -- I forget).
That's still being taught...in fast-pitch softball anyway. :p

CT1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 02:49pm
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 925653)
Hey, good for you. I like breaking out the plate coat. Do you tell the base umpire how to call half swings, too?
Most certainly.

If I say "Rich, did he go?", I want his true opinion. If, OTOH, I say "Rich, he didn't go, did he?", then I want him to stick with my call.

CT1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 925656)
So you got me on that one, but still does not change the fact your position and very antiquated on many levels. But if that is how you roll, more power to you. I just would not do what you suggest if I was working with you and would wounder why you cannot do your job and stick to some silly way to umpire.
Have you ever considered using the Preview Post button?

Rich Tue Mar 04, 2014 03:07pm
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925667)
Most certainly.

If I say "Rich, did he go?", I want his true opinion. If, OTOH, I say "Rich, he didn't go, did he?", then I want him to stick with my call.
With this response, you *must* be trolling. Or you just stepped in from the mid-1980s.

JRutledge Tue Mar 04, 2014 03:21pm
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925668)
Have you ever considered using the Preview Post button?
Have you ever considered not umpiring? ;)

Peace

Welpe Tue Mar 04, 2014 03:53pm
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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 925667)
Most certainly.

If I say "Rich, did he go?", I want his true opinion. If, OTOH, I say "Rich, he didn't go, did he?", then I want him to stick with my call.
Oh I see, you're just being funny.

rbmartin Tue Mar 04, 2014 05:31pm
Sorry for opening this can of worms.

The reason I brought it up is when I was at a state clinic last week and , while discussing working the "B" position, one of the instructors made a comment something like "you don't need to be calling balks from this position anyway". I said nothing but didn't think that was the consensus among people I had worked with.

I do wish you gentlemen would take on a more civil tone when discussing a legitimate question.


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