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RPatrino Sat Aug 17, 2013 09:31pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 902767)
At least PU in this game looks like this isn't his first rodeo.....he gets my vote for the dish in the 'ship !!!!! ( At least compared to everything else I have seen )

Good solid (GD) stance! Timing is good, somewhat inconsistent zone at times, but still a very good job!

Rich Sat Aug 17, 2013 09:32pm

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Originally Posted by lawump (Post 902766)
And now I just watched U2 brush off second base. I give up.

Brushes are OK as long as they're only used to brush out the pegs under the safety bases if the bases get dislodged. If he used it on top of the base, well...

umpjim Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:29pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 902770)
Brushes are OK as long as they're only used to brush out the pegs under the safety bases if the bases get dislodged. If he used it on top of the base, well...

There are numerous designs of safety bases. That being said, knowing that safety bases are being used would not make me think about taking a brush on the field. In fact, the magnetic bases might require a broom. In any case, what i have seen and do is kick whatever dirt interfers with putting the base back and dropping it on the appropriate spot. There gonna come loose the next time no matter what you do. Most of the time I let the player, offense or defense do it.

Manny A Sun Aug 18, 2013 07:46am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 902765)
Oh, good God. That pitch was in the other batter's box. And the announcers pretended it was a perfect pitch, to boot.

And Strike 3 was a clinic in how not to work the plate.

I don't like bashing umpires, but this gentleman was clearly in serious need of basic PU training. Notwithstanding his poor judgment and goofy strike calls, his slot moved as the catcher moved. It's as if he felt his proper positioning was just over the catcher's inside shoulder, no matter where the catcher set up. So he ended up behind the opposite batter's box for that last strike.

They tell us to do what got you here when you get picked to work high-level games. But this is something that has to be fixed before an umpire steps out onto the field. Some kind of assessment should be done of these ladies and gentlemen before the series starts. Williamsport is only bringing ridicule upon itself to let something like this go without making an attempt to remedy beforehand.

aceholleran Sun Aug 18, 2013 08:39am

This poor codger is an embarrassment. Funny part is, if you watch Jr., Sr. or Big League tourneys, you'll see competent arbiters using standard mechanics.

THE BIG QUESTION: How come THESE guys aren't in W-port? My guess is that they're not old enough, not in with the right crowd, don't have rabbis or are simply JUST TOO GOOD.

Ace

kylejt Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:56am

Nowadays, Williamsport could require video of every umpire that was being considered by all the Regionals for TV games. That way they could screen them for mechanics, game management, and if they can see their belt buckle when they look down (or at least their shoes, for Gosh sakes).

RPatrino Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:19am

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 902800)
Nowadays, Williamsport could require video of every umpire that was being considered by all the Regionals for TV games. That way they could screen them for mechanics, game management, and if they can see their belt buckle when they look down (or at least their shoes, for Gosh sakes).

Last I knew, all the umpires are nominated by their District Admininstrator, have done numerous District, Divisional, State and Regional Tournaments. They have been seen and everyone knows how they umpire. There are generally no surprises at W'Port. I don't think a guy could become so completely unraveled to the point of incompetence.

Rita C Sun Aug 18, 2013 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 902772)
There are numerous designs of safety bases. That being said, knowing that safety bases are being used would not make me think about taking a brush on the field. In fact, the magnetic bases might require a broom. In any case, what i have seen and do is kick whatever dirt interfers with putting the base back and dropping it on the appropriate spot. There gonna come loose the next time no matter what you do. Most of the time I let the player, offense or defense do it.


My league uses those bases. Trust me when I say, you want a broom.

Rita

SethPDX Sun Aug 18, 2013 07:32pm

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Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 902792)
This poor codger is an embarrassment. Funny part is, if you watch Jr., Sr. or Big League tourneys, you'll see competent arbiters using standard mechanics.

THE BIG QUESTION: How come THESE guys aren't in W-port? My guess is that they're not old enough, not in with the right crowd, don't have rabbis or are simply JUST TOO GOOD.

Ace

Maybe those guys like working the upper levels more. I know I do. Being picked for Williamsport would be nice but it's not a huge deal for me. I'd rather get to the Word Series for a level I have fun working.

Maybe they were also smart and applied at levels where they knew they'd get picked much quicker. I got my (upper division) regional the second year I put in for it.

Adam Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:28pm

Jose Canseco seems to agree:

Former MLB slugger Canseco bashes Little League World Series umpires

Manny A Mon Aug 19, 2013 09:55am

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Originally Posted by RPatrino (Post 902802)
Last I knew, all the umpires are nominated by their District Admininstrator, have done numerous District, Divisional, State and Regional Tournaments. They have been seen and everyone knows how they umpire. There are generally no surprises at W'Port. I don't think a guy could become so completely unraveled to the point of incompetence.

This umpire is not from the US, and I don't know how diligent other countries screen their umpires before nominating them to the different series. Williamsport reserves four of the LLWS umpire slots to international candidates, so some of them may not go through the same thorough process as their US counterparts.

STL_UMP Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:43am

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Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 902757)
Funny Umpire - YouTube

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ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE!!
I'll be the first to admit that I'm an amateur with a capitol A but man o man. What is that guy thinking? I've seen first year umpires set up better than that.
That just scary on so many levels. That's not even funny. It's just sad.

Justice23 Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:58am

PU in the Australia/Texas game just missed a UK3 mechanic. He called strike 3 but never gave the safe sign.

Good heads up play by the Aussie runner since the defense was confused because of the no call.

REFANDUMP Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:00pm

I'd like to see that strike zone box on the screen with this guy. They'd probably have to have an arrow pointing off the screen to show where those two pitches were. :eek::eek::eek:

Manny A Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by Justice23 (Post 902849)
PU in the Australia/Texas game just missed a UK3 mechanic. He called strike 3 but never gave the safe sign.

And just what is the UK3 mechanic in Little League? Is it really the safe sign?

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Originally Posted by Justice23 (Post 902849)
Good heads up play by the Aussie runner since the defense was confused because of the no call.

That's indicative of a poorly-coached defense, not an umpire mistake. There's no excuse for a team to make it to Williamsport and be confused by this.


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