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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:58am
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Textbook RLI. Blue's contrary opinion only solidifies that.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:41am
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I proved my point and that's all I wanted to do.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:48am
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As a Twins fan (hard to be one these days), when I heard the local TV sports guy report on the call, I looked for the video of the play to see what all the controversy was about.

Yawn... good call.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:04am
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Let's change the sitch just a bit. Let's say the B-R in this play was in the running lane the whole way, but on his last stride the ball hits him just like it did here. In the video, notice that the ball hits the runner just about the same time his foot is coming down on the bag. Does that change the call?
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:07am
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Let's change the sitch just a bit. Let's say the B-R in this play was in the running lane the whole way, but on his last stride the ball hits him just like it did here. In the video, notice that the ball hits the runner just about the same time his foot is coming down on the bag. Does that change the call?
Likely. If he comes out on the last step, he's going to be legal. If he runs ALL THE WAY out of the lane, he's going to get called for RLI as long as F3 is able to field a throw absent the interference.
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Let's change the sitch just a bit. Let's say the B-R in this play was in the running lane the whole way, but on his last stride the ball hits him just like it did here. In the video, notice that the ball hits the runner just about the same time his foot is coming down on the bag. Does that change the call?
Yes. By interpretation, BR is allowed to take his last step in fair territory so that he can touch the base.

Assuming, of course, that he doesn't do anything to intentionally interfere.
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:30pm
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Unfortunately, this play was ruled incorrectly. In PRO and College baseball, the B/R can take any path he wishes to first base, however, he runs the risk of getting called for interference if he is outside the runner's lane on the last 45 feet to the base EXCEPT for his last step, stride or when he is in the immediate vicinity of the base, he is allowed to be outside the lane.

The fact that he was outside the entire way is NOT illegal and does not come into play UNLESS he interferes with a quality throw between the beginning of the 45 ft lane until a step, stride or immediate vicinity of 1st base. In the original play, the B/R gets hit by the throw too late (i.e, he was to close to the base) and thus is protected by the rule REGARDLESS of the path traveled for the first 87+ feet.

Don't get me wrong, if the call could go either way (ie. was B/R hit just before or after his final stride to the base) and he was running inside the whole time, then we tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the fielder and call the interference. However, the B/R was just too close to 1st base at the time he got hit by throw and thus, should NOT have been called for interference (at PRO & NCAA levels).
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Old Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:36pm
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Unfortunately, this play was ruled incorrectly. In PRO and College baseball, the B/R can take any path he wishes to first base, however, he runs the risk of getting called for interference if he is outside the runner's lane on the last 45 feet to the base EXCEPT for his last step, stride or when he is in the immediate vicinity of the base, he is allowed to be outside the lane.

The fact that he was outside the entire way is NOT illegal and does not come into play UNLESS he interferes with a quality throw between the beginning of the 45 ft lane until a step, stride or immediate vicinity of 1st base. In the original play, the B/R gets hit by the throw too late (i.e, he was to close to the base) and thus is protected by the rule REGARDLESS of the path traveled for the first 87+ feet.

Don't get me wrong, if the call could go either way (ie. was B/R hit just before or after his final stride to the base) and he was running inside the whole time, then we tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the fielder and call the interference. However, the B/R was just too close to 1st base at the time he got hit by throw and thus, should NOT have been called for interference (at PRO & NCAA levels).
This is not correct. The B/R must be in the lane all the way. Only then is he is entitled to leave the lane on his last stride and not be (potentially) guilty of unintentional INT.
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Unfortunately, this play was ruled incorrectly. In PRO and College baseball, the B/R can take any path he wishes to first base, however, he runs the risk of getting called for interference if he is outside the runner's lane on the last 45 feet to the base EXCEPT for his last step, stride or when he is in the immediate vicinity of the base, he is allowed to be outside the lane.

The fact that he was outside the entire way is NOT illegal and does not come into play UNLESS he interferes with a quality throw between the beginning of the 45 ft lane until a step, stride or immediate vicinity of 1st base. In the original play, the B/R gets hit by the throw too late (i.e, he was to close to the base) and thus is protected by the rule REGARDLESS of the path traveled for the first 87+ feet.

Don't get me wrong, if the call could go either way (ie. was B/R hit just before or after his final stride to the base) and he was running inside the whole time, then we tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the fielder and call the interference. However, the B/R was just too close to 1st base at the time he got hit by throw and thus, should NOT have been called for interference (at PRO & NCAA levels).
Not what Wendelstedt teaches (at least in their 2011 WUM):

"A runner that is running the entire distance outside of the running lane will not be protected if he interferes with a play at first base, even if it is in his last stride or step to the base. In order to be protected, this last step must be when he first exits the running lane."
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