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tcarilli Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by bluehair (Post 899330)
Agreed, but it is not an uncommon occurance...not the same thing. Every season I have a HS varsity B trying to disrupt F1's rhythm by asking for time/stepping out at inappropriate times. This is the kind of action that I believe Fed was trying to legislate against.

It must be a regional thing. I can't remember the last time I saw that in an NFHS game. So, in my experience, it is uncommon. If you don't grant time willy-nilly the problem typically resolves itself.

JJ Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 899334)
If the pitcher hesitates, its easy: do over.

And it's pretty easy to say "he hesitated"...

JJ

bluehair Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 899335)
It must be a regional thing. I can't remember the last time I saw that in an NFHS game. So, in my experience, it is uncommon. If you don't grant time willy-nilly the problem typically resolves itself.

Perhaps its a regional thing. We have very competitive baseball here. It doesn't happen every game here, but it does happen from time to time. It must happen in other places, else Fed wouldn't have had the need to address it.

I don't grant time willy-nilly. My usual response to "Time" in this type of sitch is "NO". But not granting time does not make B's action retro-actively disappear. B has already done the inappropriate action.
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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 899334)
I think the shitty end is call a pitch that is a ball a strike. If the pitcher hesitates, its easy: do over.

That's how OBR handles it. Reset...Start again. I wouldn't have a problem doing it that way. But Fed wants to penalize B for initiating an absolved pitching infraction (F1 stopping or hesitating).

tcarilli Fri Jul 05, 2013 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by bluehair (Post 899337)
Perhaps its a regional thing. We have very competitive baseball here. It doesn't happen every game here, but it does happen from time to time. It must happen in other places, else Fed wouldn't have had the need to address it.

As do we. Not sure why that matters.

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Originally Posted by bluehair (Post 899337)
I don't grant time willy-nilly. My usual response to "Time" in this type of sitch is "NO". But not granting time does not make B's action retro-actively disappear. B has already done the inappropriate action.

Didn't intend to suggest you did, I'm sorry for my use of the second person. I should have used the third person.

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Originally Posted by bluehair (Post 899337)
That's how OBR handles it. Reset...Start again. I wouldn't have a problem doing it that way. But Fed wants to penalize B for initiating an absolved pitching infraction (F1 stopping or hesitating).

Not it does not. 6-2-4 says "In (a) and (c), there is no penalty on either the batter or the pitcher. The umpire shall call "Time" and begin play anew." same as OBR.

bluehair Fri Jul 05, 2013 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 899339)
Not it does not. 6-2-4 says "In (a) and (c), there is no penalty on either the batter or the pitcher. The umpire shall call "Time" and begin play anew." same as OBR.

Yes, if F1 stops or hesitates there is no penalty in 6-2-4d-1 (a) and (c) but then in CB 6.2.4I, there are penalties of one or two strikes called for B stepping out of BB. One is for violating 7-3-1 (both feet out...I get that one), but where do you get the other penalty strike when there is no stop or hesitation in 6.2.4I (a) and (c)? Too many contradictions in this rule/sitch.


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