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Old Sun Jun 09, 2013, 07:54pm
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Shoot the PU for making a call not his.
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Old Sun Jun 09, 2013, 08:04pm
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Old Sun Jun 09, 2013, 08:25pm
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Old Sun Jun 09, 2013, 08:51pm
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Under FED, it remains a foul ball.

Under NCAA, place the runner where you think he would have ende dup had the ball been called fair initially (I'm assuming here that the ball really was fair.)
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What happened when the coach protested the incorrect application of rule?

(I also wonder what happened when UIC learned he has an umpire who would EVER say the word "Fair" out loud)
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Old Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:06pm
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How about the opposite situation, U3 signals fair ball and it is clearly foul according to the HP partner (who commented as such after we walked off the field), once play is concluded the 3B coach ask U3 to go for help and U3 says he saw it clearly. Coach now goes to HP and asks him to offer his info to his partner but HP says the call will stand since he will not offer unless asked by U3 who is not going to ask for it. Should HP step up and correct the call if he truly feels U3 kicked it or should the crew just live with U3's call? Granted, U3 could have taken the opportunity to go for help but he chose not to. FYI, this was a 16U championship game ending play. Hell, I was U1 and it sure looked foul from my crappy angle across the diamond, lol.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:08am
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How about the opposite situation, U3 signals fair ball and it is clearly foul according to the HP partner (who commented as such after we walked off the field), once play is concluded the 3B coach ask U3 to go for help and U3 says he saw it clearly. Coach now goes to HP and asks him to offer his info to his partner but HP says the call will stand since he will not offer unless asked by U3 who is not going to ask for it. Should HP step up and correct the call if he truly feels U3 kicked it or should the crew just live with U3's call? Granted, U3 could have taken the opportunity to go for help but he chose not to. FYI, this was a 16U championship game ending play. Hell, I was U1 and it sure looked foul from my crappy angle across the diamond, lol.
If U3 saw it clearly one way, and PU saw it clearly another way --- who is to say, for sure, that one umpire's judgement is more "correct" than the other umpire's judgement? A call belongs to one umpire - for a reason.
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Old Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:34pm
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What happened when the coach protested the incorrect application of rule?

(I also wonder what happened when UIC learned he has an umpire who would EVER say the word "Fair" out loud)
I would have been ejected...
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Old Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:39pm
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Hey Tex, what is the incorrect application of what rule ???
In FED rules, it is not allowed to change a foul ball to fair.
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Old Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:41pm
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What happened when the coach protested the incorrect application of rule?

(I also wonder what happened when UIC learned he has an umpire who would EVER say the word "Fair" out loud)
Never say never, I know it is never said but I had an Umpire that needed to say that's a fair ball in a Varsity ball game. The ball came off the bat over the dish and the F2 hopped up to get it and just threw the ball back to F1. The PU is pointing fair and nothing happened, so he yelled that's a fair ball...
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:10am
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Never say never, I know it is never said but I had an Umpire that needed to say that's a fair ball in a Varsity ball game. The ball came off the bat over the dish and the F2 hopped up to get it and just threw the ball back to F1. The PU is pointing fair and nothing happened, so he yelled that's a fair ball...
Then I'll stick with never. He should not have yelled a damn thing. Just stand to the side and point fair. Someone will get it eventually.
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Shoot the PU for making a call not his.
Why? He was just doing what Tim McClelland taught us ten years ago was okay.

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