Assigning playoff umpires in Texas

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UMP45

Dash I have him doing a "stop and go".

I don't know what that is.

[BigUmp56]

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

Are you asking because you don't know?

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Are you asking because you don't know?

Since I'm not much of a seer, of course I don't know who else here would have balked him, Wayne. I'm hoping most of the members here would have. Do you have an opinion worth sharing? About the call or non-call of the balk...............

Tim.

[hbk314]

Missed the FPSR and called a non-existent balk.

Impressive.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Since I'm not much of a seer, of course I don't know who else here would have balked him, Wayne. I'm hoping most of the members here would have. Do you have an opinion worth sharing? About the call or non-call of the balk...............

Tim.

I wouldn't have balked it............stop looked complete, and discernible to me..............not sure of the who the "you" was you were referring to. Maybe small ball guys would have called it........but not a competent high school playoff umpire.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I wouldn't have balked it............stop looked complete, and discernible to me..............not sure of the who the "you" was you were referring to. Maybe small ball guys would have called it........but not a competent high school playoff umpire.

I disagree. I think all competent umpires would have called a balk as soon as he set with his hands in front of his body and then broke them apart. If you'll read my question it was about a situation prior to the balk that ended up being called. Please keep up.............

Tim.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I disagree. I think all competent umpires would have called a balk as soon as he set with his hands in front of his body and then broke them apart. If you'll read my question it was about a situation prior to the balk that ended up being called. Please keep up.............

Tim.

Oh..........I suppose you're talking about when the batter hadn't entered the box yet. Yep, that's a balk all competent umpires call. Maybe this website is too advanced for you.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

[ODJ]

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ODJ

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

Agreed, I looked but still don't understand what they called and why they placed the runner back on 1B? If it's FPSR then its a DP. If not then the play stands -

These guys were very poor for sure.

Thanks
David

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

That's funny.

Our local HS had game last week and the 1B umpire waited until the 7th inning to balk in the winning run - his call was the F3 didn't have both feet in fair territory - and this was for the North State Championship - hey it gave our team the win - but very poor umpiring for the entire game.

I told my son who plays on our team - you don't call that in 7th inning when he's been doing it the entire game etc., but we'll take the @W

Thanks
David

[RPatrino]

I don't know about you guys, but I have never seen a playoff game with such poor game management in my life. Batters were wandering all over the place, coaches wandered all over the place, the pace was slow as molasses, I just don't get it.

On the FPSR, that was obvious on the video. What I don't understand is how the DC can come onto the field during a LIVE ball and not be ejected. It looked like there were TWO coaches on the field arguing/discussing the call. Very poor indeed. Watching games like this makes my skin crawl.