Calling "Time" on batters

[Rich]

I ended up having a semi-heated conversation with a coach earlier this week on this very topic.

His batter, on EVERY pitch, would hold up his hand while getting into the box so he could dig for 5+ seconds with his back foot. Finally, I told the batter to keep one foot in the box and we would not be holding up the game on every pitch. The batter didn't listen to me and I let the pitcher pitch when the kid has his hand up while digging. I made sure the batter wasn't looking down -- I'm not going to sacrifice safety -- and the batter got his hand on the bat just in time to foul the pitch off.

Naturally, the coach came out between innings and asked me what I said to his player. Naturally, I told him exactly what I told the batter.

Then the coach got annoyed. First he told me the batter could call time anytime he wanted. I told the coach, "No, he can't." Then he told me that the batter had 20 seconds between pitches and I had to hold back a laugh. I wasn't about to hold a rules clinic. I think the line I finally used (twice) was, "This is the way it's going to be today." Then I told him he needed to go back to the dugout.

I've not seen anything quite like this team (well, I did have them about 8 years ago in a regional playoff and I ended up ejecting an assistant coach) -- the catcher was openly arguing with the coach the entire game and eventually told the coach (from the plate, loud enough for all to hear) to "Stop talking. You're not helping us. Don't talk to us unless you have a play" and the coach just took this from the kid and spend the offensive innings pleading with the kid to act right, listen to him, and stop being a jerk. I almost felt sorry for the coach -- regardless of talent this kid would've been on the bench in my world.

And if the coach thinks he's going to take that from his catcher and yet be a jerk himself to me, he's got another thought coming.

[RPatrino]

I agree on the 'holding up the hand' thing. That is NOT calling for time out, or getting a time out from me, ever. I don't see it so much in high school, but a lot in the summer games.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Rich

First he told me the batter could call time anytime he wanted.

I only coach baseball, but technically the coach is right. The batter could call time anytime (I'll be generous and say that by "call" the coach really meant "request"). He could also recite the Declaration of Independence if he wanted to. Nobody but the umpire, however, can grant a time out. I make sure when instructing my kids that they request time, the umpires grant it. Helps keeps things in perspective and avoid difficulties later.

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by Rufus

I only coach baseball, but technically the coach is right. The batter could call time anytime (I'll be generous and say that by "call" the coach really meant "request"). He could also recite the Declaration of Independence if he wanted to. Nobody but the umpire, however, can grant a time out. I make sure when instructing my kids that they request time, the umpires grant it. Helps keeps things in perspective and avoid difficulties later.

I particularly like, "time blue please sir"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I ended up having a semi-heated conversation with a coach earlier this week on this very topic.

His batter, on EVERY pitch, would hold up his hand while getting into the box so he could dig for 5+ seconds with his back foot. Finally, I told the batter to keep one foot in the box and we would not be holding up the game on every pitch. The batter didn't listen to me and I let the pitcher pitch when the kid has his hand up while digging. I made sure the batter wasn't looking down -- I'm not going to sacrifice safety -- and the batter got his hand on the bat just in time to foul the pitch off.

Naturally, the coach came out between innings and asked me what I said to his player. Naturally, I told him exactly what I told the batter.

Then the coach got annoyed. First he told me the batter could call time anytime he wanted. I told the coach, "No, he can't." Then he told me that the batter had 20 seconds between pitches and I had to hold back a laugh. I wasn't about to hold a rules clinic. I think the line I finally used (twice) was, "This is the way it's going to be today." Then I told him he needed to go back to the dugout.

I've not seen anything quite like this team (well, I did have them about 8 years ago in a regional playoff and I ended up ejecting an assistant coach) -- the catcher was openly arguing with the coach the entire game and eventually told the coach (from the plate, loud enough for all to hear) to "Stop talking. You're not helping us. Don't talk to us unless you have a play" and the coach just took this from the kid and spend the offensive innings pleading with the kid to act right, listen to him, and stop being a jerk. I almost felt sorry for the coach -- regardless of talent this kid would've been on the bench in my world.

And if the coach thinks he's going to take that from his catcher and yet be a jerk himself to me, he's got another thought coming.

I wish more umpires would stand up to coaches like this. Too often guys are afraid to be the bad guy.

Peace

[bluehair]

Originally Posted by Rich

Then the coach got annoyed. First he told me the batter could call time anytime he wanted. I told the coach, "No, he can't." Then he told me that the batter had 20 seconds between pitches and I had to hold back a laugh. I wasn't about to hold a rules clinic. I think the line I finally used (twice) was, "This is the way it's going to be today." Then I told him he needed to go back to the dugout.

If you could appeal to coach's reasonable side. Yah, I know...

"Coach, suppose your F1 was in a groove. Would you want me to allow batters to indiscriminantly call time to throw your pitcher off his rhythm? That kind of crap could get out of hand in a hurry." Optional:"Homey don't play that".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bluehair

If you could appeal to coach's reasonable side. Yah, I know...

"Coach, suppose your F1 was in a groove. Would you want me to allow batters to indiscriminantly call time to throw your pitcher off his rhythm? That kind of crap could get out of hand in a hurry." Optional:"Homey don't play that".

Yeah, that is going to work.

Peace