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MD Longhorn Wed Jan 30, 2013 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock (Post 875832)
The NCAA thinks he is.

What do you mean by that? Is there some note somewhere I've not seen that changes the time at which we are to set the baseline in a situation like this?

johnnyg08 Wed Jan 30, 2013 02:16pm

Okay dash, w/ that approach I can see where "D" could be an answer. Clear as mud. Perfect.

dash_riprock Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 875892)
What do you mean by that? Is there some note somewhere I've not seen that changes the time at which we are to set the baseline in a situation like this?

No, I'm just going by the possible answers to this question.

MD Longhorn Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock (Post 875935)
No, I'm just going by the possible answers to this question.

Ah. Got it.

Steven Tyler Wed Jan 30, 2013 07:07pm

If I have my facts straight, I was told at a FED meeting control of the ball really meant everything. I believe I was referring to the fielder with the ball in his throwing hand, and making an attempt to tag a runner with his glove hand. More than a reach on a tag attempt regardless of the location/possesion of the ball, runner out for leaving base path. Might be something you want to discuss in a future meeting.

johnnyg08 Thu Jan 31, 2013 01:05am

So is anybody on here opposed to answering "D" on this question?

LittleLeagueBob Thu Jan 31, 2013 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 876032)
So is anybody on here opposed to answering "D" on this question?


Nope - I was a little slow, but after this discussion, I believe that's the right answer. I missed 2 - I have no idea which ones - but I don't think this was one of them...

UmpTTS43 Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:09pm

D - All of the above, is not a correct answer.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43 (Post 876121)
D - All of the above, is not a correct answer.

Based on ....

(Not doubting you; just seeking clarification)

zm1283 Thu Jan 31, 2013 01:57pm

You know, I have no problem taking rules tests and discussing questions all day. But when it has taken almost four pages and we still can't figure it out and have differing opinions, do you think the question (Not just that one) is written poorly? I am not as rules-savvy as some people, but I kind of pride myself on staying sharp on the rules, but it seems like the hardest part of this test is just trying to decode the hidden meaning in the questions. I don't feel like that makes anyone a better umpire.

UmpTTS43 Thu Jan 31, 2013 05:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 876141)
Based on ....

(Not doubting you; just seeking clarification)

Because A says he must be tagged. Another answer says, paraphrasing, that if the fielder had possession of the ball during the tag attempt the runner would be guilty of going outside of his 3` running lane. You can't have both of these answers as correct.

dash_riprock Thu Jan 31, 2013 06:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43 (Post 876225)
Because A says he must be tagged. Another answer says, paraphrasing, that if the fielder had possession of the ball during the tag attempt the runner would be guilty of going outside of his 3` running lane. You can't have both of these answers as correct.

You can if you consider them independently.

JJ Thu Jan 31, 2013 08:13pm

Since the fielder was in the act of fielding the throw but didn't catch it, he couldn't make a tag attempt so you can't call obstruction on the fielder nore can you call the runner for being out of the basepath. I'm going to get out my flipping coin on this answer...

JJ

UmpTTS43 Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock (Post 876232)
You can if you consider them independently.

Yes but an all of the above answer means all other answers are correct inclusively. This cannot be the case.

johnnyg08 Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:05pm

I still like "A" or "C" depending on if you judge a baseline violation or not.


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