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Old Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:15pm
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Must be the reality TV version...
Your inexperience is showing. McLuhan's treatise likely sheds some insight on why you learned it the way you did.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:44am
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Your inexperience is showing. McLuhan's treatise likely sheds some insight on why you learned it the way you did.
I'm familiar with it. I was commenting wryly on Carl's typo in the post where he chastens Tee for his typo.
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Old Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:26pm
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Gosh, Tee: I didn't know the National Federation had stopped publishing rule books. I must have missed their announcement. Uh, I guess I also missed the notice from the Giddeons International society.

And don't brag about your post to anybody at the NFHS. They might wonder why one of their "consultants" didn't know who wrote The Medium is the Massage, which I was teaching at the college level at three deifferent universities in the 60's and 70s. The author was Marshall McLuhan.

Amazing! You're back at your old stand. And I was telling everybody your were cured of this bad habit.
Yeah, Tee. It's a bad habit that's acceptable, though, if you're hawking a product. Come back then.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:47pm
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As a member of the NFHS publication committee:
Sorry for straying from the thread, but...

From the 2013-14 NFHS Umpires Manual:

"Audible calls on non-swinging strikes should vary in intensity, tone and length depending on their importance in the game."

"For the foul call, turn your body towards foul territory, extend your arms over your head, and bring them down to waist level in the direction of foul territory. Yell, "Foul!" as emphatically as you gesture. If the call is crucial to the game or is just barely foul, yell, "Foul! Foul! Foul!"

"On a passed ball with a runner at third, a play at home is likely. Remove your mask quickly, if you think you have time. Set yourself at a right angle to the catcher's throw. This gives you a good angle on the play at home."

"One way to be sure the tagging player has retained possession of the ball is to ask to see it. Or you can tell the runner he's out if the tagger has the ball."

"When the ball is batted foul, call out in a loud voice "foul ball" and signal it foul by first putting both hands over your head and then motioning to foul territory."

"Be careful not to kick dirt onto the plate after you have just cleaned it."

"When you start cleaning the plate, face the spectators and the catcher's box. If your pants were to tear, only the infielders would see it."

"Suit your simultaneous verbal call to the emphasis of the physical call and phrase it for, and direct it to, the offensive player. You could say, "He's out!" But if you say, "You're out!" you're getting to the principal one who must be convinced."

"If the [safe call] demands more emphasis or if you want to show your appreciation of a good play, bring your arms in from the extended position, possibly crossing them in an x in front of you and re-extending them. You can repeat this several timed depending on the amount of emphasis you wish to give. Another way of emphasizing the call is to make a couple of quick side steps, either with the arms extended or while making repeated safe signs."

T, I am sure these didn't emanate from you, but they don't do much for FED's credibility, and they certainly detract from the other good stuff found throughout the manual.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:51pm
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Sorry for straying from the thread, but...

From the 2013-14 NFHS Umpires Manual:

"Audible calls on non-swinging strikes should vary in intensity, tone and length depending on their importance in the game."

"For the foul call, turn your body towards foul territory, extend your arms over your head, and bring them down to waist level in the direction of foul territory. Yell, "Foul!" as emphatically as you gesture. If the call is crucial to the game or is just barely foul, yell, "Foul! Foul! Foul!"

"On a passed ball with a runner at third, a play at home is likely. Remove your mask quickly, if you think you have time. Set yourself at a right angle to the catcher's throw. This gives you a good angle on the play at home."

"One way to be sure the tagging player has retained possession of the ball is to ask to see it. Or you can tell the runner he's out if the tagger has the ball."

"When the ball is batted foul, call out in a loud voice "foul ball" and signal it foul by first putting both hands over your head and then motioning to foul territory."

"Be careful not to kick dirt onto the plate after you have just cleaned it."

"When you start cleaning the plate, face the spectators and the catcher's box. If your pants were to tear, only the infielders would see it."

"Suit your simultaneous verbal call to the emphasis of the physical call and phrase it for, and direct it to, the offensive player. You could say, "He's out!" But if you say, "You're out!" you're getting to the principal one who must be convinced."

"If the [safe call] demands more emphasis or if you want to show your appreciation of a good play, bring your arms in from the extended position, possibly crossing them in an x in front of you and re-extending them. You can repeat this several timed depending on the amount of emphasis you wish to give. Another way of emphasizing the call is to make a couple of quick side steps, either with the arms extended or while making repeated safe signs."

T, I am sure these didn't emanate from you, but they don't do much for FED's credibility, and they certainly detract from the other good stuff found throughout the manual.
I've never read it this close before throwing it in the trash can. I'm glad. It sounds like it was written in 1946.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:41am
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From the 2013-14 NFHS Umpires Manual:


"Suit your simultaneous verbal call to the emphasis of the physical call and phrase it for, and direct it to, the offensive player. You could say, "He's out!" But if you say, "You're out!" you're getting to the principal one who must be convinced."
I agree that this is phrased wrong. But sometimes the situation demands pointing the call to the specific player; i.e., when two players are on the same base and both players are tagged.

The proper mechanic is: "42: You're out. Time!" This way, you protect the player who owns the base.

I once followed that practice. #42 said: "Why?" I said: "I don't discuss calls with JV players, son." Later in the half-inning I realized the bases had been loaded with a ground ball to the pitcher who had chased R3 back to third. #42 had been forced to third and owned the base.

My point is, if you're asleep, not even mechanics properly used can save your behind.
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Sorry for straying from the thread, but...

From the 2013-14 NFHS Umpires Manual:

"Audible calls on non-swinging strikes should vary in intensity, tone and length depending on their importance in the game."

"For the foul call, turn your body towards foul territory, extend your arms over your head, and bring them down to waist level in the direction of foul territory. Yell, "Foul!" as emphatically as you gesture. If the call is crucial to the game or is just barely foul, yell, "Foul! Foul! Foul!"

"On a passed ball with a runner at third, a play at home is likely. Remove your mask quickly, if you think you have time. Set yourself at a right angle to the catcher's throw. This gives you a good angle on the play at home."

"One way to be sure the tagging player has retained possession of the ball is to ask to see it. Or you can tell the runner he's out if the tagger has the ball."

"When the ball is batted foul, call out in a loud voice "foul ball" and signal it foul by first putting both hands over your head and then motioning to foul territory."

"Be careful not to kick dirt onto the plate after you have just cleaned it."

"When you start cleaning the plate, face the spectators and the catcher's box. If your pants were to tear, only the infielders would see it."

"Suit your simultaneous verbal call to the emphasis of the physical call and phrase it for, and direct it to, the offensive player. You could say, "He's out!" But if you say, "You're out!" you're getting to the principal one who must be convinced."

"If the [safe call] demands more emphasis or if you want to show your appreciation of a good play, bring your arms in from the extended position, possibly crossing them in an x in front of you and re-extending them. You can repeat this several timed depending on the amount of emphasis you wish to give. Another way of emphasizing the call is to make a couple of quick side steps, either with the arms extended or while making repeated safe signs."

T, I am sure these didn't emanate from you, but they don't do much for FED's credibility, and they certainly detract from the other good stuff found throughout the manual.
Seriously? Love that don't kick dirt after you just cleaned advice and the one about splitting my pants. Is this crap really in the NFHS umpire manual? I have not looked at it in a long time.
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Old Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:18pm
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Seriously? Love that don't kick dirt after you just cleaned advice and the one about splitting my pants. Is this crap really in the NFHS umpire manual? I have not looked at it in a long time.
Word for word.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:33pm
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Everyone makes their own decisions.

Newsweek leaving publication is a start.

Getting a newspaper that is 2/3 sized . . . see Indianapolis daily . . . clearly shows the trend.

Rich, i have a master in Journalism and I am disgusted at the tend . . . internet unproven articles . . . I am lost
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:38pm
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Everyone makes their own decisions.

Newsweek leaving publication is a start.

Getting a newspaper that is 2/3 sized . . . see Indianapolis daily . . . clearly shows the trend.

Rich, i have a master in Journalism and I am disgusted at the tend . . . internet unproven articles . . . I am lost
The most shocking thing I saw this week was that CNN bought the cesspool that is Bleacher Report and will be using that as their default sports site instead of Sports Illustrated. If you've ever read anything on Bleacher Report, you'll understand why I'm disappointed and wonder if anything will ever be as good as it used to be.

One of these days I guess it will all seem like the new normal, but not yet.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:36am
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Carl, please slow down and re-read my post . . .

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"As a member of the NFHS publication committee:

"Printed media is dead.

"See Marshall McClune;

"The media is the message."
So I do know who Marshall McLuhan is . . . I just type poorly.

The NFHS PUBLISHES only one magazine these days. All other are on line.

Carl, think of glass houses . . . you criticize my spelling and you wrote (sic),

"deifferent" -- and of some "massage" -- before you go after me you should watch your own typing errors.

Darn Carl, I know you make a living writing, publishing and SELLING books . . . my entire work in this thread was COMPLAINING about the loss of published media.

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