NFHS Rules: Pitcher's Stances.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by egj13

Yes I balk him in that instance...If runners are on, I intrepret the hybrid as a set...

Wait a minute. If you interpret the hybrid as a set when runners are on, why would you balk him if he then steps and throws to a base?

[egj13]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Wait a minute. If you interpret the hybrid as a set when runners are on, why would you balk him if he then steps and throws to a base?

So I went to lunch and as I was driving back eating my chicken soft taco I thought to myself..when I get back someone is going to say "wait a minute"...I got ahead of myself in my response.

If he is in Hybrid, runners on, I assume he is in set position and treat it as such...and if no one is on, I assume windup and treat is as such. However...

In thinking about this myself, if I assume he is in the set with runners on, but he lifts his non-pivot foot to start the wind-up would I balk him? or just let him go because the baserunner should steal as soon as he lifts the non-pivot anyway?

So I thouhgt about it further and I am going to have to watch this more this summer. It seems to me that the kids that use the hybrid (45 degree angle) only do so in the windup and use a more 90 degree with runners on base..but I will definately be interested to check this out this summer.

[bob jenkins]

99% of the time (now), there's no confusion. But some coaches are (or will be) teaching the pitcher to set up in this "hybrid" manner to confuse the runner and shorten the lead or get an out.

the rule change is designed to nip it in the bud.

(and also has to do with LCD umpiring, imo).

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

99% of the time (now), there's no confusion. But some coaches are (or will be) teaching the pitcher to set up in this "hybrid" manner to confuse the runner and shorten the lead or get an out.

the rule change is designed to nip it in the bud.

(and also has to do with LCD umpiring, imo).

What rule change in FED. I think it's been in the books for a while. The thing that has changed has been the impetus on enforcement in some areas. I'm not aware of coaches in my area rule cognizant enough to abuse or be abused by pushing the limit on this rule. In any case in other than OBR, if the umps or coaches are confused the rule is easily used. In OBR I do see some sharpshooting possible.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by umpjim

What rule change in FED. I think it's been in the books for a while. The thing that has changed has been the impetus on enforcement in some areas. I'm not aware of coaches in my area rule cognizant enough to abuse or be abused by pushing the limit on this rule. In any case in other than OBR, if the umps or coaches are confused the rule is easily used. In OBR I do see some sharpshooting possible.

Yes, I misspoke. Thank you for the correction.