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Old Mon Dec 03, 2012, 07:46pm
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Six man crews on championship games with people that have trouble working two man.
Yeah, at one time I thought I wanted to do it...but from what I've heard it's Smitty haven.

For me, no thanks.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2012, 11:23pm
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The conditions aside, I'll never understand the motivation of those who donate their labor to someone else's for-profit enterprise.

There's an adage about them; something to do with a lollipop, childbirth, and 1/60 of an hour.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 09:07am
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The conditions aside, I'll never understand the motivation of those who donate their labor to someone else's for-profit enterprise.

There's an adage about them; something to do with a lollipop, childbirth, and 1/60 of an hour.
Donate? I'm getting paid. Not as much as I normally would, but then again, free food and I get to go to the HoF (never been). But I'm really going to support a team in our league that is going.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:30am
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Donate? I'm getting paid. Not as much as I normally would, but then again, free food and I get to go to the HoF (never been). But I'm really going to support a team in our league that is going.
I think the main issue is that the organizer is making money on these tournaments with the expectation that the umpires will be working for free (unless individually compensated by their teams).
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:38am
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I think the main issue is that the organizer is making money on these tournaments with the expectation that the umpires will be working for free (unless individually compensated by their teams).
I took Mike's point to be that they're not working for free: they're receiving lodging and food.

From the "Umpires" section of their website: "As a guest of Cooperstown Dreams Park your stay will be expense free."

That's compensation (adequate or not) and, according to the IRS, could be taxable income.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 11:46am
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Well that is true and in the eyes of the IRS I'm sure cafeteria quality food and dorm conditions are "compensation".

I will amend my statement to "without monetary remuneration."

That said, Mike, go and have a good time. Share some pictures on Facebook if you would be so kind.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 01:21pm
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Well, now I'm confused. I'm getting paid a specific amount of money. Is this not normal?
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