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C'mon guys,
Rule 6.05(h) is not meant to cover this situation. The rules of baseball aren't written or intended to be used where a camera taking a few thousand frames per second would be required to get the correct ruling. Also, 6.05(h) requires that the batted ball be called foul if the bat hits the broken bat in foul territory. Yet, many batters are back in the box, and contact between ball and bat in foul territory occurs frequently. Is anyone here seriously advocating that a foul ball should have been called in this case if the contact with the broken bat was in foul territory? But that is what reliance on 6.05(h) would require. It's simple. The batter made a normal swing and the ball was hit fair. It's a fair batted ball, and there is no reason to call the batter out. Trying to justify this obviously correct ruling by invoking 6.05(h) invites a wrong ruling. |
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Even though our eys don't really work in frames you could say at best the human eye can only detect 200 frames/second. This was filmed at 3000 fps. Thus the double hit would be impossible to visually detect and unlikely to be audible among the sounds of the initial hit of the bat the bat shattering. So in essence you don't need a rule because it is humanly impossible to discern this from any other broken bat batted ball.
The rule is written to deal with part of the bat that separates from the handle. In which case when both are still moving, it is a matter of perspective to say which hit the other. |
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Point of fact... Depending on what you're measuring, it's more like 10-15 frames per second. If you could see 200 frames per second individually, you would detect flicker in even the highest quality movies.
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As I'm sure they did when "The Big Unit" nailed that poor bird...
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The rule is there to punish the batter for hitting the ball a second time. As the batter has ZERO control over the broken off piece of the bat he could not no way no how possibly in any manner ever hit the ball a second time so he can't be guilty of anything about the incident. Give it a rest and move on.
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I believe it we sit and 'what if' this scenario to death, it will render this thread irrelevant.
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Which means there was a chance that is was relavant to begin with. NOT
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Completely wrong but this is not a human factors forum so I leave it at that
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I think the defense did bring it to the attention of the umpires after noticing the ball change directions while coming off of the bat. But I am not sure if the umpire ever acknowledged a second contact with the ball, and its relative change in direction, was ever made. He may not have seen it. Ruled a base hit.
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The only time I can remember a ball double hit the bat is during a bunt attempt. One time I heard it, but didn't see it, so I just waited until the ball rolled foul.
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Last edited by Welpe; Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 08:09am. |
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What if we just watched the games and not have to scrutinize every facet of every play and call. Kind of like the game was supposed to be enjoyed. No replays, no slo-mo, just sit back and enjoy a day at the park.
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