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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 01:23pm
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The other 5 waited to see the one whose responsibility to call that area make a call. He waited until ALL criteria was met for the IFR to be in effect. Until then, nothing to call. It was on time and appropriate. All criteria was met, both "technically" and "spiritually".
Okay, call it when the infielder was camped under the ball. Not when the F6 moves away, and the outfielder isn't even close............Holbrook blew it, plain and simple.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 02:29pm
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Okay, call it when the infielder was camped under the ball. Not when the F6 moves away, and the outfielder isn't even close............Holbrook blew it, plain and simple.
Hmmm....he WAS camped under the ball.

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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 02:43pm
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Hmmm....he WAS camped under the ball.

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Who was camped under the ball? F6 didn't ever make it out to where the ball landed. That's what the not ordinary effort camps whole point is. At least as I understand it. He didn't have time to check his F7 and get under the ball.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 02:45pm
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Okay, call it when the infielder was camped under the ball...
I'm sure he tried to. The problem was, as soon as it appeared F6 was under the ball, he immediately bailed.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 03:20pm
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Okay, call it when the infielder was camped under the ball. Not when the F6 moves away, and the outfielder isn't even close............Holbrook blew it, plain and simple.
As soon as F6 was slowly stepping back and calling for it, that is ordinary effort. Oh look, it doesn't say he has to be "camped" under the ball or stationary. He just has to show ordinary effort to get to the fly ball. Holbrook called it according to the rules, plain and simple.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 10:09pm
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As soon as F6 was slowly stepping back and calling for it, that is ordinary effort. Oh look, it doesn't say he has to be "camped" under the ball or stationary. He just has to show ordinary effort to get to the fly ball. Holbrook called it according to the rules, plain and simple.
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If you still think he was protecting the offense, both runners moved up very easily after the ball struck the ground.

Last edited by Adam; Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 10:45pm. Reason: unnecessary roughness
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 11:04pm
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Good thread. I think it has run its course.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 03:24pm
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Okay, call it when the infielder was camped under the ball. Not when the F6 moves away, and the outfielder isn't even close............Holbrook blew it, plain and simple.
And the SS waved his arms signaling to his teammates that I have the ball. Correct and good call. If the SS had done his job and caught the ball, this discussion, the one on the softball board, and the one on umpire.org would not be taking place.

102 responses is enough, I think this horse is dead already.
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