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Did I answer correctly?
In the dressing room following some games last night was asked a question by a fellow umpire that I believe that I answered correctly BUT it never hurts to ask for other opinions.
Situation: NFHS rules - pitching change during an inning. While the pitcher is taking his eight warm up pitches 6 or 8 offensive players are outside the dugout swinging bats. They are all further away from the plate than the on-deck circle and they all have on helmets. My Answer: I told him that I couldn’t think of any rule against doing that. When I got home I looked in the rule book and the case book (that’s the extent of my high school reference library) and couldn’t find anything. |
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3-3-1j: A player shall not be outside the designated dugout (bench) or bullpen area if not a batter, runner, on-deck batter, in the coach’s box or one of the nine players on
defense. If additional players want to "warm up", they can go outside the fence. |
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+1 --- absolutely not allowed in NHFS. Personally, I wouldn't allow this "kiddie-ball crap" in any game.
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No mention if the ball was dead as it was in this case.
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I'm embarrassed to say that I read right past 3-3-1j and missed it. Thanks again for the help, I'll pass it along to the other umpire.
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It is customary, in my experience, to have two players taking swings during warm-ups...the player who will be the batter, but it isn't yet, and the player who will be on-deck, but isn't yet. I have seen, at times, three and since this is a deadball situation, and none of them are close to the plate or dirt circle, I have no problem with that.
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Probably because it doesn't make any difference. Don't allow it.
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Taken literally, 3-3-1j would say that players can't go to (as opposed to already being in) the bullpen, there can't be a batboy, players can't chase foul balls, etc.
The casebook heading for 3-3-1 is "Leaving the dugout/bench during a live ball", and it says the intent of the rule (presumably 3-3-1a) is to limit offensive players from flooding the plate area. I'm dubious that 3-3-1j applies between innings or during an in-inning pitcher change. Even during live balls, other folks besides those mentioned in 3-3-1j are authorized to be outside the dugout. For example, it specifically says that the batboy is OK, and that players can go down the foul line to the bullpen. |
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