Brett Lawrie throws helmet at Miller

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

4 games is a travesty. This is a felony in most states.

That said, while I have no problem with the FU call when warranted, I feel it was nowhere near warranted in this case.

A felony for throwing a helmet on the ground? In what states would this be a felony? Remind me not to travel through them.

I think Miller would have called strike 3 even if the ball had been higher and farther outside than it already was. That wasn't even a Senior LL strike, which has to be the biggest zone out there.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

That wasn't even a Senior LL strike, which has to be the biggest zone out there.

Jr LL is even bigger. For some, this is their first experience with a 60' 6" distance.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Jr LL is even bigger. For some, this is their first experience with a 60' 6" distance.

Yeah, forgot about that monstrosity.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

A felony for throwing a helmet on the ground? In what states would this be a felony? Remind me not to travel through them.

I think Miller would have called strike 3 even if the ball had been higher and farther outside than it already was. That wasn't even a Senior LL strike, which has to be the biggest zone out there.

Yes, that's where he was throwing it ... the ground. OK.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Yes, that's where he was throwing it ... the ground. OK.

Okay then, in what state would throwing a helmet at an umpire be a felony? What's the charge? Assault with intent to make a boo-boo?

I am not excusing moron Lawrie for throwing the helmet folks, but the call was clearly sent as an FU, and was the catalyst for the tirade. Not an excuse for it, but the reason behind it.

If Miller would get a real strike zone, because according the sainted F/X charts, he misses a lot of pitches, it may help.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay then, in what state would throwing a helmet at an umpire be a felony? What's the charge? Assault with intent to make a boo-boo?

So you are saying that if I threw an object at the ground and hit a person, that would be legal? I am not so sure that is what you mean, but you have to know that is not the case. Better yet, what if a man did that to a woman, would we say that that was OK too?

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

A felony for throwing a helmet on the ground? In what states would this be a felony? Remind me not to travel through them.

I think Miller would have called strike 3 even if the ball had been higher and farther outside than it already was. That wasn't even a Senior LL strike, which has to be the biggest zone out there.

Did you actually see the Pitch F/X chart? Pitch 5 was clearly outside, but look at pitch 6. Doesn't look *that* high to me based on where MLB sets the strike zone and how they evaluate umpires.

[thumpferee]

Better Know An Umpire: Bill Miller

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Did you actually see the Pitch F/X chart? Pitch 5 was clearly outside, but look at pitch 6. Doesn't look *that* high to me based on where MLB sets the strike zone and how they evaluate umpires.

No, I just saw the pitch from knowing what is and isn't a strike from many years of calling balls and strikes, many more balls and strikes than Miller has EVER called.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

No, I just saw the pitch from knowing what is and isn't a strike from many years of calling balls and strikes, many more balls and strikes than Miller has EVER called.

How nice. You're experience of calling amateur baseball should be compared to the experience of a MLB umpire who has years in the major leagues plus a ton of other professional experience.

Go back on your meds.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

Did you actually see the Pitch F/X chart? Pitch 5 was clearly outside, but look at pitch 6. Doesn't look *that* high to me based on where MLB sets the strike zone and how they evaluate umpires.

The chart must be based on the rulebook strikezone. Pitch 6 was not borderline.