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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 03:43pm
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The level of play and weather ARE considerations to use when declaring, or not declaring an IFF.

OBR 2.00 ORDINARY EFFORT is the effort that a fielder of average skill at a position in that league or classification of leagues should exhibit on a play, with due consideration given to the condition of the field and weather conditions.

So ordinary effort in LL and MLB are two different animals, with a sliding scale in between.

And if the wind is blowing the ball all over the place you may take that into consideration.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 04:18pm
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From the casebook...

10.2.3 situation G

10.2.3 SITUATION G

With R1 on second and R2 on first and no outs, B3 hits an infield fly, but the umpire fails to call "infield fly." Is the infield fly in effect or not?

RULING: Even though the infield fly rule was not announced by the umpire, it is still in effect. Both teams have the responsibility to know when conditions exist for an infield fly.
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Wind is a factor, sun is not. So if the wind is whipping around what might be ordinary when wind is not blowing is no longer ordinary.

But if he camped under it and caught it it was most likely IFF. If he could not get camped under it because wind was blowing around then no.
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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:10pm
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Wind is a factor, sun is not. So if the wind is whipping around what might be ordinary when wind is not blowing is no longer ordinary.

But if he camped under it and caught it it was most likely IFF. If he could not get camped under it because wind was blowing around then no.
These are similar to the metrics that my assigners were promoting this year. If the infielder is sprinting hard or leaves his feet, that's not ordinary effort. Neither is trying to make a catch over your shoulder.
They didn't go so far as to state as much, but being able to at least start to turn the body towards the infield should be a good visual, if it happens in time to make the announcement.
I much prefer the infield flys that land between the third baseman and shortstop while both of them are looking at each other. With 8th graders, that's a very plausible play. (I had it Wednesday. )
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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:04pm
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I much prefer the infield flys that land between the third baseman and shortstop while both of them are looking at each other. With 8th graders, that's a very plausible play. (I had it Wednesday. )
I had it last night in HS Varsity only with F3 and F4.
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The level of play and weather ARE considerations to use when declaring, or not declaring an IFF.

OBR 2.00 ORDINARY EFFORT is the effort that a fielder of average skill at a position in that league or classification of leagues should exhibit on a play, with due consideration given to the condition of the field and weather conditions.

So ordinary effort in LL and MLB are two different animals, with a sliding scale in between.

And if the wind is blowing the ball all over the place you may take that into consideration.
I disagree, a fielder camped under an infield fly is a fielder camped. Level of play has no bearing. It is not our job as umpires to determine if a camped fielder can or cannot make the catch.

I do agree with the wind in that on a windy day, I would be inclined to be a little more careful on calling that infield fly if the fielder is moving around too much.
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I do agree with the wind in that on a windy day, I would be inclined to be a little more careful on calling that infield fly if the fielder is moving around too much.
If it is real windy I discuss infield fly at pre-game.
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I disagree, a fielder camped under an infield fly is a fielder camped. Level of play has no bearing. It is not our job as umpires to determine if a camped fielder can or cannot make the catch.
Well, they added it into the rule a few years ago, so it must be important to the rules makers.
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