Dale Scott calls a ball foul then fair

[tmagan]

In the top of the ninth inning, with the bases loaded, an up and in pitch to the San Diego batter led to a bunt attempt. Scott, who probably was startled by the pitch signaled foul clearly, then fair leading to the triple play as the San Diego runners clearly and correctly pointed out that the initial call was foul. I guess Scott will say it didn't affect the outcome of the play, but giving multiple signals to the base runners is unfair.

[SAump]

Doesn't mention the call.

Dodgers turn triple play in 9th against Padres - Yahoo! Sports

[tmagan]

Originally Posted by SAump

Doesn't mention the call.

Dodgers turn triple play in 9th against Padres - Yahoo! Sports

You'll hear about it. If this happened in a postseason game, as Al Michaels would say, 'there would be hell to pay'.

[kylejt]

The PU clearly signaled TIME, not foul (Both hands up, with emphisis). R1 and R2 reacted to that by not moving, and wandering back to their bases.

[JR12]

Dodger vs padres 4/15/2011Triple play - YouTube
He does hold his hands up, then points fair.

[jicecone]

He backed off and came up with his hands but didn't signal anything until he called fair ball. Quit trying to make things up here. He NEVER pointed out the the initial call was foul.
And he for dam sure didn't (with emphais) did not, signal time!!!!!!

What are you guys smoking?

[Dave Reed]

At 0:14 in the video link, he has both hands above his head. That's clearly a signal of time, whether Scott intended it or not. By rule, the ball has to be put into play again before any outs can be recorded.

It was a mistake, but the world will keep on turning.....

[SAump]

The batter runs toward the dugout after his wierd fair hit, abandoning his effort to run to first base by leaving the dirt circle area.

BR actions clearly remove the force on himself and other runners who remain on base. What's he have to do, enter the dugout.

Runners remaining on base were incorrectly called out and the manager fails to protest a new and improved BR strategy.


Who said it isn't necessary to run to touch first base after putting a fair ball in play.

Oh PS. Notice tha Dodgers catcher step on the plate for out 1, throws to third for out 2, and then third relays to second for out 3, and second relays to 1st for that advantageous 4th out. (ran out of silly emoticons)

[SanDiegoSteve]

I can see why people (including the batter, R3, R2, R1, and Bud Black) thought he was signaling fair because he wussed out so much with the hands in the air. That's not a typical reaction from a veteran umpire. What, did he think the ball was going to hit him, so he got real flinchy? His hands had no business going above his head like that unless he was calling foul, HBP, or was being held up at gunpoint.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SAump

The batter runs toward the dugout after his wierd fair hit, abandoning his effort to run to first base by leaving the dirt circle area.

BR actions clearly remove the force on himself and other runners who remain on base. What's he have to do, enter the dugout.

Runners remaining on base were incorrectly called out and the manager fails to protest a new and improved BR strategy.


Who said it isn't necessary to run to touch first base after putting a fair ball in play.

I am grateful that I never had you for an umpire. smdh!

[SAump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I am grateful that I never had you for an umpire. smdh!

13 sec into video, fair or foul?

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

At 0:14 in the video link, he has both hands above his head. That's clearly a signal of time, whether Scott intended it or not. By rule, the ball has to be put into play again before any outs can be recorded.

It was a mistake, but the world will keep on turning.....

I see the ball on the left-side of the plate, strike the side of the plate and roll off to the left.
I see ump raised hands, fist closed.
I see ump palms open and signal time.
I see ump point fair, putting the foul ball back in play.
I see ump fist close and signal the 1st out at HP.
(Under Review, confusing arm extended right/left fair signal with multiple hammer, finger-pointing to center field fair calls)
3BU signals the 2nd out.
2BU signals the 3rd out.
1BU signals the 4th out.
An entire crew couldn't put that one back together again.

See article and video link
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...b_1&mode=video

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20659155

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20655513

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SAump

I see the ball on the left-side of the plate, strike the side of the plate and roll off to the left.
I see ump raised hands, fist closed.
I see ump palms open and signal time.
I see ump point fair, putting the foul ball back in play.
I see ump fist close and signal the 1st out at HP.
3BU signals the 2nd out.
2BU signals the 3rd out.
1BU signals the 4th out.
An entire crew couldn't put that one back together again.

See article and video link
MLB.com Gameday | dodgers.com: Gameday
MLB.com Gameday | dodgers.com: Gameday

Well, he didn't signal an out at HP, because there was only R1 and R2 on base at the time.

But, after watching the much better mlb.com video, Scott definitely signaled either Time or Foul, then changed his mind, totally confusing the San Diego Padres.

[Steven Tyler]

Con.fu.sion [kuhn-fyoo-zhahn]

noun

1. The act of confusing.

2. The state of being confused.

3. A San Diego thing nobody understands..............

[johnnyg08]

Some of you guys are smoking some really good stuff. If that's not a "foul" mechanic after the "startled" look, I don't know what is. Scott should have manned up and owned his mistake on the field vs. changing the game w/ a triple play.

This is not meant to be disparaging by any means, but it is what it is. I've made the same mistake before (where he holds up his hands as if to get out of the way)...but this is a pretty clear "foul" mechanic.