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Old Sat Mar 10, 2012, 08:20pm
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Yes, LL uses OBR as the base for its rules.



While FED does use different rules, this one is the same. On CI, there is the option to take the play or the penalty. The penalty is that the batter is awarded first, and any runners advance if forced. In addition, any runner stealing on the pitch is awarded a base. Also, if R3 is attempting a steal of home, a balk is also enforced and ALL runners advance.




When you consider the diameter of the ball and the height of a batter, a pitch two inches off the ground very well could be a strike.
I believe FED does not advance any other runners on CI (Catchers Obstruction in FED) with a steal or squeeze of home. No balk.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:15pm
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Yes, LL uses OBR as the base for its rules.


While FED does use different rules, this one is the same. On CI, there is the option to take the play or the penalty. The penalty is that the batter is awarded first, and any runners advance if forced. In addition, any runner stealing on the pitch is awarded a base. Also, if R3 is attempting a steal of home, a balk is also enforced and ALL runners advance.
Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 03:55pm
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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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Matt was talking there about FED, not OBR. 8-1-1e1 is the reference: any runner attempting to advance is awarded his advance base.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 04:35pm
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Matt was talking there about FED, not OBR. 8-1-1e1 is the reference: any runner attempting to advance is awarded his advance base.
Thank you for the clarification. For obvious reasons, I am unfamiliar with FED rules.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 05:49pm
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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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LLGB 7.04(c)
OBR 7.04(d)
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Old Tue Mar 13, 2012, 12:10am
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Thank you too!

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LLGB 7.04(c)
OBR 7.04(d)
Ahh, exactly.

Thanks for helping me out.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:49pm
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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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Go back and read all the posts. The answer is there, for a FED game. In OBR a balk is called on CI when R3 is stealing home so does not matter if runners are stealing.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:03pm
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PS Do all LL Umpires call balls 2 inches off the ground strikes, or is it just here? LOL
The ole I am going to appear like I know something about umpiring and the rules of baseball and throw my dig in about officials.Huh.

If you don't like the way other people officiate, get off your butt and try it yourself.

Sorry, no sympathy here for whinning parents.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2012, 08:12pm
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PS Do all LL Umpires call balls 2 inches off the ground strikes, or is it just here? LOL
No, not all LL umpires call a good strike zone: some have the kids out there for 3 or 4 hours to play a 6 inning game.
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