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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:41am
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FED, it's not (wrote ahead of myself above.) See 8.1.1L.
OK Thanks.

Remember though that the OP was asking about a game under LL rules and it is 7.07 there.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:30am
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OK Thanks.

Remember though that the OP was asking about a game under LL rules and it is 7.07 there.
The OP also asked whether the FED rule is different.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:37pm
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It's interference in ANY OBR-based rule set. Not just the big boys.
Exactly.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 04:17pm
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The difference between FED and NCAA/OBR on a runner advancing from 3b at time of the OBS/INT is that FED scores the run and puts BR on 1b, all runners also advancing on the pitch advance also. Runners not advancing do not, ie not a balk call. In NCAA/OBR a balk is called and all runners advance and BR goes to 1b.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:15pm
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Yes, LL uses OBR as the base for its rules.


While FED does use different rules, this one is the same. On CI, there is the option to take the play or the penalty. The penalty is that the batter is awarded first, and any runners advance if forced. In addition, any runner stealing on the pitch is awarded a base. Also, if R3 is attempting a steal of home, a balk is also enforced and ALL runners advance.
Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 03:55pm
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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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Matt was talking there about FED, not OBR. 8-1-1e1 is the reference: any runner attempting to advance is awarded his advance base.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 04:35pm
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Matt was talking there about FED, not OBR. 8-1-1e1 is the reference: any runner attempting to advance is awarded his advance base.
Thank you for the clarification. For obvious reasons, I am unfamiliar with FED rules.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 05:49pm
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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

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LLGB 7.04(c)
OBR 7.04(d)
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:01pm
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This IS NOT Interference by the Catcher; this IS Obstruction by the Catcher.

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Next you'll say that R1 is on 3B.
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Next you'll say that R1 is on 3B.

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Except for when R3 is the runner stealing (OBR 7.07), I cannot find the justification for the bolded statement.

Thanks,
Go back and read all the posts. The answer is there, for a FED game. In OBR a balk is called on CI when R3 is stealing home so does not matter if runners are stealing.
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Thank you too!

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LLGB 7.04(c)
OBR 7.04(d)
Ahh, exactly.

Thanks for helping me out.
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