How about this mess!

[Bfair]

Originally posted by BJ Moose
Brother Steve.. I would think leaving the basepath IS abandonment... there is no "leaving the basebath" penalty is there (I mean, without the abandonment part).

Moose, abandonment is when a player is not being played upon. Most take a little longer time to judge that, and perhaps may not call it as quickly for a player headed back behind 2B. Since he was being played upon, he has a limited territory to run, and once he leaves that territory he can immediately be declared out. That prevents the need for addressing R1 passing R2, is in-line with applying the rules, and keeps your butt out of the ringer in calling 2 outs for a play destined for but one out.

There is a difference, and that's in the timing.


Freix