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jwwashburn Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:09pm

Joe West ejects Davey Johnson
 
So, the third base umpire ejects a manager who is arguing with the PU?

If I am the PU, I am not pleased.


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realistic Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:22pm

So Davey Johnson can stand there and yell at Joe but Joe is supposed to keep his mouth shut? Give me a break.

jwwashburn Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:29pm

The Plate Umpire can toss him...isn't that how you have seen it done EVERY SINGLE TIME?

realistic Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:35pm

Johnson was yelling at Joe West. He is the crew chief. West ejects Johnson. I see it happen all the time. Holbrook could care less if West runs him.

jwwashburn Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:58pm

I did not see him yelling at Joe West

briancurtin Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 784848)
I did not see him yelling at Joe West

Look at the video starting at 20 seconds - he's looking right at West. He looks to be yelling something, pointing with his left hand, and pointing to his head with his right hand, then starts walking towards West presumably once he gets dumped.


(No idea what he said, how it was said, what else went on - just pointing out that he was saying something to West)

kylejt Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:28pm

Joe being Joe. When, oh when will he hang up his spurs? He had no business in the call or EJ. No one was pointing at. The manager was pointing toward the dugout, and saying he could hear it in there. Not toward Joe, but he still sticks his chins in where they don't belong.

(p.s. does he pocket all that Wilson sponsorship $ ? I know the umpires don't see dollar one, only a few pieces of gear a year.)

Rich Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:30pm

Apparently the video didn't show the umpires coming together to discuss whether or not anybody saw the batter get hit. This ejection came after Joe had already started back to third and got most of the way there.

If you convince the umpires to come together and discuss something like this, you should be prepared to get run if you go off the deep end (especially while gesturing) afterwards.

There's a cut at 0:20.

Watch at 10:20 of this:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18562715 -- at 10:40 Holbrook calls the crew in. Then *this* video is cut. It's resumed after the ejection and Johnson headed up to third.

Gesturing like that is going to get you run, especially in the Major Leagues. It's probably going to get you run from any game I work, too.

Of course this just lets the usual suspects get another dig in at Joe West for doing his job.

JRutledge Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:06am

I was prepared to say something about Joe West, but it appears he was being yelled at. The video was clearly edited.

Peace

kylejt Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:07am

Also watch around 9:30, where the PU takes his mask off and follows the batter off the circle. Let the guy have his say, and let him walk off. He didn't turn around, and show you up.

Look, the MLB is show business, and nobody, I mean nobody, aside from some umpire geeks, paid to watch the arbitors.

JRutledge Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 784864)
Also watch around 9:30, where the PU takes his mask off and follows the batter off the circle. Let the guy have his say, and let him walk off. He didn't turn around, and show you up.

Look, the MLB is show business, and nobody, I mean nobody, aside from some umpire geeks, paid to watch the arbitors.

And what does that mean? I guess that the players should be disrespectful and the umpires should just take it? I find it funny if the umpires did anything to the players or coaches like they do to them, then people would be upset and say they stepped over their bounds. But the players and coaches can rant and rave, pout like children and the umpires are supposed to look the other way. Unbelievable!!!!!

Peace

asdf Thu Sep 01, 2011 06:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 784864)
Also watch around 9:30, where the PU takes his mask off and follows the batter off the circle. Let the guy have his say, and let him walk off. He didn't turn around, and show you up.

Look, the MLB is show business, and nobody, I mean nobody, aside from some umpire geeks, paid to watch the arbitors.

You have no idea what was said to the PU.

It's ironinc that you are getting on the guys in this case for "manning up" like you want the basketball guys to do.

realistic Thu Sep 01, 2011 06:56am

The best thing about this is the next pitch. STFD.

Rich Thu Sep 01, 2011 07:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 784864)
Also watch around 9:30, where the PU takes his mask off and follows the batter off the circle. Let the guy have his say, and let him walk off. He didn't turn around, and show you up.

Look, the MLB is show business, and nobody, I mean nobody, aside from some umpire geeks, paid to watch the arbitors.

You're talking like a rat, now. Congratulations.

kylejt Thu Sep 01, 2011 08:23am

Easy now, fellas. Remember, I'm just talking about MLB here. Not what we do. If a guy turns around says $#!+ to me, yeah, he's getting run. But it's different at that level. You let him have his say, and as long as he's moving on, you don't chase him with your mask off. That's the way most handle it.


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