LLWS Video on last play?

[bsaucer]

I was watching a LLWS game on TV, and they were showing a list of the rules for video review on the screen. It included a rule that the last play of the game is always reviewed. Does that apply if a game ends on a called pitch?

[Rich Ives]

Pitch isn't a "play" so it isn't a game-ending "play" so it wouldn't get reviewed.

[BretMan]

Does it apply on, say, a one-hopper to F3 who steps on first before the batter can get two steps out of the box?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Does it apply on, say, a one-hopper to F3 who steps on first before the batter can get two steps out of the box?

Yes.

So what?

Maybe he missed the base.

[johnnyg08]

Yeah, I agree with some on here. Why even have six umpires working? With all of the reviews and the cameras...they could easily work this as two man. I know, it gets for umpires into the stadium to work and I guess if that's the only reason, that's good enough for me.

[zm1283]

And the circus continues....

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

So what?

It seems like a ridiculous redundancy, that's what.

Wouldn't this be sweet...the championship game ends on the play I posted above. Celebratory pandemonium breaks loose. Some kids are screaming, some kids are crying, some are piling up in the infield, the fans are going wild and the television announcers are spouting their usual analytical drivel...

Wait! get 'em back out on the field! The game's not over! The officials we've chosen to call our most important game aren't able to get the most basic routine call right!

And if you say that is an unlikely scenario...then you're saying that reviewing the final play of the game, no matter how routine or obvious, is redundant.

[SanDiegoSteve]

By the looks of that simple safe/out call at first that was blown (and should have been challenged), these umpires can use all the help from replay they can get.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by BretMan

It seems like a ridiculous redundancy, that's what.

Wouldn't this be sweet...the championship game ends on the play I posted above. Celebratory pandemonium breaks loose. Some kids are screaming, some kids are crying, some are piling up in the infield, the fans are going wild and the television announcers are spouting their usual analytical drivel...

Wait! get 'em back out on the field! The game's not over! The officials we've chosen to call our most important game aren't able to get the most basic routine call right!

And if you say that is an unlikely scenario...then you're saying that reviewing the final play of the game, no matter how routine or obvious, is redundant.

The calling them back after the last play already happened in this series.

Do you really want the game to end on a disputed call?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

By the looks of that simple safe/out call at first that was blown (and should have been challenged), these umpires can use all the help from replay they can get.

If you're talking the one in this game it was a banger and not that obvious and the CA coach was so focused on the "out of baseline" discussion he overlooked the thing he should have seen.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

If you're talking the one in this game it was a banger and not that obvious and the CA coach was so focused on the "out of baseline" discussion he overlooked the thing he should have seen.

Only a banger to the untrained eye. Fairly routine for competent umpires to never miss.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Only a banger to the untrained eye. Fairly routine for competent umpires to never miss.

Like Jim Joyce in the perfect game fiasco?

Or Don Denkinger in the WS.

Or Richie Garcia on the Jeter HR/Interference in the playoffs?

Nope - competent umpires never miss a call do they?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Like Jim Joyce in the perfect game fiasco?

Or Don Denkinger in the WS.

Or Richie Garcia on the Jeter HR/Interference in the playoffs?

Nope - competent umpires never miss a call do they?

Rarely.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Do you really want the game to end on a disputed call?

No. What I think is silly is to just automatically review a non-disputed call.

But it is what it is and it's their game and they can do what they want with it. I'm just throwing out an opinion on a high-profile policy involving a hobby I enjoy (umpiring).

When it comes right down to it, on the "This Gets Me Worked Up" scale, it registers about the same as what you posted earlier..."So what?".

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Like Jim Joyce in the perfect game fiasco?

The Gods of Baseball got that game correct. The Tigers' F3 had no business fielding the ball. Had the F3 allowed F4 to field the grounder the B/R runner would have been out F4 to F3 by 30 feet. Both Mark, Jr., and Andy (my younger son, and both F3's in their playing days) both said that the very first time they saw the play.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Besides the Tigers' F1 appeared to bobble the throw.