Another "Crossed-Up" Catcher

[kylejt]

What we're forgetting here is where, exactly, this guy got hit. If he was really hurt, he may not have been thinking straight, and just walked off the field without ejecting folks.

My son was 17, when played his last game as a catcher. Two out in the last inning, and he leaned over to glove an outside curveball. The batter nicked it, and it glanced off his neck.

He stood up, and proceded to remove all his gear, and placed it nicely on the plate. Then, he sat beside me on the dugout bench.

"What's up?"

"I'm done."

"Jimmy, go get the gear one"

We figure the blow shut off the blood flow to his brain for a bit. He got checked out that evening, and everything was fine. But baseballs to the body can make folks to funny things.

[RadioBlue]

I agree, as well, it's hard to prove anything from the video. The fact there's a runner on goes against the umpire, but I do not know what the score was at the time this occurred.

But just watching the catcher makes be think this is intentional. The pitch is nowhere near the dirt, yet the catcher crouches and ducks as if he's trying to smother a ball in the dirt. The catcher doesn't even track the pitch with his eyes/head whatsoever.

In 27 years, nothing like this has ever happened to me. I sure hope that it doesn't. I'm not likely to walk off and file a police report, but I am likely to file ejection paperwork (x3).

[Eastshire]

I also think it looks intentional. I also don't think it would be terrible hard to convince people it was intentional.

I see tossing the catcher, after all it's his (in)action that's the cause of this. Why, however, do we assume the pitcher had any part in it? For all we know, the catcher did call for the fastball in and the pitcher threw it in good faith that his catcher would do his job. Likewise with the coach. Unless you'd issued a warning to both teams a la intentionally throwing at a batter I don't see dumping the HC and even then I don't see dumping the pitcher who is an unwitting participant. After all, we don't dump the catcher when the pitcher throws at someone.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I also think it looks intentional. I also don't think it would be terrible hard to convince people it was intentional.

I see tossing the catcher, after all it's his (in)action that's the cause of this. Why, however, do we assume the pitcher had any part in it? For all we know, the catcher did call for the fastball in and the pitcher threw it in good faith that his catcher would do his job. Likewise with the coach. Unless you'd issued a warning to both teams a la intentionally throwing at a batter I don't see dumping the HC and even then I don't see dumping the pitcher who is an unwitting participant. After all, we don't dump the catcher when the pitcher throws at someone.

For sure, players with good coaches wouldn't even consiuder this crap. Dumping the coach is usually the correct call and the correct message to send.

[umpjong]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I also think it looks intentional. I also don't think it would be terrible hard to convince people it was intentional.

I see tossing the catcher, after all it's his (in)action that's the cause of this. Why, however, do we assume the pitcher had any part in it? For all we know, the catcher did call for the fastball in and the pitcher threw it in good faith that his catcher would do his job. Likewise with the coach. Unless you'd issued a warning to both teams a la intentionally throwing at a batter I don't see dumping the HC and even then I don't see dumping the pitcher who is an unwitting participant. After all, we don't dump the catcher when the pitcher throws at someone.

They sent a message to him now he can send one back. Ejection of the catcher, pitcher, head coach, shortstop, 2 bench players, and the scorekeeper might, just might be enough of a message if it ever happens to me.

And sometimes, yes the catcher goes when the pitcher throws at someone. Tolerance of these things at the amateur level is unacceptable.

[STL_UMP]

Not the first time for something like this has happened...
Catcher Ducks, Umpire Gets Hit With Pitch - YouTube

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by STL_UMP

Not the first time for something like this has happened...
Catcher Ducks, Umpire Gets Hit With Pitch - YouTube

I think that's why the topic is "Another Crossed-Up Catcher".

[JJ]

I'd have dumped the pitcher, catcher, and HC, and then I would have left. Maybe make an ER visit and get my friendly doctor to note that I wouldn't be able to do any writing for awhile (if I got hit on the hand as suggested here). Then I'd have started typing my ejection reports while the nice officer was writing HIS report. And I'd make sure every umpire in the area knew about what the team had done as well...

JJ

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by STL_UMP

Not the first time for something like this has happened...
Catcher Ducks, Umpire Gets Hit With Pitch - YouTube

That's the video I remember seeing a couple of years ago.

Video in OP definitely intentional, especially after the pitcher and catcher had obviously disagreed with the previous pitch. Top that off with that particular team having a reputation in the area (GREAT team, but terrible whiners in the rare instance they are losing), you've got an EJed pitcher, catcher, and manager if he says a word in protest.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by umpjong

They sent a message to him now he can send one back. Ejection of the catcher, pitcher, head coach, shortstop, 2 bench players, and the scorekeeper might, just might be enough of a message if it ever happens to me.

And sometimes, yes the catcher goes when the pitcher throws at someone. Tolerance of these things at the amateur level is unacceptable.

Why not the batter too? That pitch was GROOVED - he must have been in on it too to not swing at that one.