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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 11:15am
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Umpire's Resource Center - Rules that Catchers and Plate Umpires Need to Know - Part VII
Former umpire Jim Evans, who heads the “Jim Evans Academy of Professional Umpiring,” offers his perspective on the rule and its history. “The catcher is required to be in the catcher’s box until the pitcher initiates his delivery,” said Evans. “Once the pitcher starts his motion, the catcher is allowed to move out of the box. The rule was originally created when the catcher’s box was much larger, triangular, and implemented to discourage pitchers from pitching around hitters when the intentional walk was not a strategic part of the game.”

Evans’ interpretation is a bit more liberal but more realistic as to the way the game is umpired on the major league level. Evans’ interpretation allows the catcher to move out of the box the moment the pitcher “initiates” his delivery whereas 4.03 (a) restricts the catcher from leaving the box until “the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 11:25am
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Umpire's Resource Center - Rules that Catchers and Plate Umpires Need to Know - Part VII
Former umpire Jim Evans, who heads the “Jim Evans Academy of Professional Umpiring,” offers his perspective on the rule and its history. “The catcher is required to be in the catcher’s box until the pitcher initiates his delivery,” said Evans. “Once the pitcher starts his motion, the catcher is allowed to move out of the box. The rule was originally created when the catcher’s box was much larger, triangular, and implemented to discourage pitchers from pitching around hitters when the intentional walk was not a strategic part of the game.”

Evans’ interpretation is a bit more liberal but more realistic as to the way the game is umpired on the major league level. Evans’ interpretation allows the catcher to move out of the box the moment the pitcher “initiates” his delivery whereas 4.03 (a) restricts the catcher from leaving the box until “the ball leaves the pitcher’s hand.
When the rule book reads "unless Evans says differently" than I will start following what he has to say.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 11:44am
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When the rule book reads "unless Evans says differently" than I will start following what he has to say.
Do you really make the catcher wait for the ball to leave the pitcher's hand on an IW?

You're really out of touch if you do.

And the rule only applies to an IW, not a pitchout.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 12:52pm
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Do you really make the catcher wait for the ball to leave the pitcher's hand on an IW?

You're really out of touch if you do.

And the rule only applies to an IW, not a pitchout.
And besides - what's the difference between an IW and 4 pitchouts?
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 01:28pm
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And besides - what's the difference between an IW and 4 pitchouts?
An IW is counted for official scoring purposes when the catcher extends he gloved hand out for the 4th ball. Once he assumes that position, the rule says that he is supposed to keep both feet in the box until the pitch is released. As explained by Jim Evans above, there is latitude given once the pitcher starts his motion to the plate.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 01:33pm
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An IW is counted for official scoring purposes when the catcher extends he gloved hand out for the 4th ball. Once he assumes that position, the rule says that he is supposed to keep both feet in the box until the pitch is released. As explained by Jim Evans above, there is latitude given once the pitcher starts his motion to the plate.
Humor escapes you, I see.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 01:43pm
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Humor escapes you, I see.
It appeared to be a serious question that brought up a proper answer.
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An IW is counted for official scoring purposes when the catcher extends he gloved hand out for the 4th ball.
That would be interesting with a RH batter.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 01:58pm
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That would be interesting with a RH batter.
Dash...you're engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
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Old Sun Jul 10, 2011, 02:04pm
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That would be interesting with a RH batter.
Quite correct. I should have written ...extends a hand out. Sorry about that.
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And besides - what's the difference between an IW and 4 pitchouts?
If you don't know then you don't belong on a field with a game over the 10U level.
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