This is your All-Star Coach?

[MD Longhorn]

How in the world is it possible for a coach (2 actually - HC and AssC) to make it through an entire season of baseball, be selected to coach a town's All-Star team, yet not know that if your batter is put out at first base on a routine play, your runner from 3rd can not score, even if he beat the play at 1st?

And how in the world can you argue about it THREE times?

Top of 1, the above occurred, HC argued with me as I tried not to laugh at the absurdity of not knowing this rule at this point of the season. After bottom 1, AssC briefly argues with me as he's heading toward the 3BC box. After top 2, HC comes in again, gets the firm, "Coach we've already talked about this once too many - the rule is the rule let's move on." He then tells the scorekeeper, loud enough for everyone to hear, to put the run on the board and that the umpire is wrong. So now AssC is HC. Scorekeeper puts the run on the board! And now I have a new scorekeeper.

Absurd. Completely absurd. And people wonder where the term RAT comes from.

[mbyron]

Wow, that IS pretty basic.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

How in the world is it possible for a coach (2 actually - HC and AssC) to make it through an entire season of baseball, be selected to coach a town's All-Star team, yet not know that if your batter is put out at first base on a routine play, your runner from 3rd can not score, even if he beat the play at 1st?

And how in the world can you argue about it THREE times?

Top of 1, the above occurred, HC argued with me as I tried not to laugh at the absurdity of not knowing this rule at this point of the season. After bottom 1, AssC briefly argues with me as he's heading toward the 3BC box. After top 2, HC comes in again, gets the firm, "Coach we've already talked about this once too many - the rule is the rule let's move on." He then tells the scorekeeper, loud enough for everyone to hear, to put the run on the board and that the umpire is wrong. So now AssC is HC. Scorekeeper puts the run on the board! And now I have a new scorekeeper.

Absurd. Completely absurd. And people wonder where the term RAT comes from.

You can't make shi...tuff like this up! Reality is the best comedy. Thanks for sharing!

What level of ball is this?

-Josh

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

How in the world is it possible for a coach (2 actually - HC and AssC) to make it through an entire season of baseball, be selected to coach a town's All-Star team, yet not know that if your batter is put out at first base on a routine play, your runner from 3rd can not score, even if he beat the play at 1st?

And how in the world can you argue about it THREE times?

Top of 1, the above occurred, HC argued with me as I tried not to laugh at the absurdity of not knowing this rule at this point of the season. After bottom 1, AssC briefly argues with me as he's heading toward the 3BC box. After top 2, HC comes in again, gets the firm, "Coach we've already talked about this once too many - the rule is the rule let's move on." He then tells the scorekeeper, loud enough for everyone to hear, to put the run on the board and that the umpire is wrong. So now AssC is HC. Scorekeeper puts the run on the board! And now I have a new scorekeeper.

Absurd. Completely absurd. And people wonder where the term RAT comes from.

The term comes from abusing the rules, not for not knowing them.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The term comes from abusing the rules, not for not knowing them.

Huh. I thought it came from coaches' superfluous attempts to correct umpires.

I had a pitcher step off and throw a pick-off out of play. The coach politely asked why I had awarded the runner 3B. When I explained, he said that a pitcher MUST step off before throwing over. "That's not a rule, coach."

Eh, Mike's story is much better.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The term comes from abusing the rules, not for not knowing them.

Yep. abusing, or attempting to cheat.

See TB manager in the past couple of days.

Originally Posted by mbyron

Huh. I thought it came from coaches' superfluous attempts to correct umpires.

Nope. Unless by "superfluous" you mean "arguing even though you know the umpire got it right."

[Robert E. Harrison]

I had a coach bet me $50 the NFHS rules keep the ball live after a balk is called. I handed him a deposit slip and the money was in my account two weeks later.
Is that unPROFESSIONAL?

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by Robert E. Harrison

I had a coach bet me $50 the NFHS rules keep the ball live after a balk is called. I handed him a deposit slip and the money was in my account two weeks later.
Is that unPROFESSIONAL?

Thanks coach, but there go any NCAA aspirations.

[MikeStrybel]

I had an umpire actually ask for help from the coaching staffs on a call in my son's U11 travel league the other day:

R3 and two outs. The batter swings and the ball goes to the backstop. We yell for him to go to first on the D3K and the runner crosses just before the catcher threw out our runner at first. He kept a scorecard and asked whether the run scored. I had to keep myself from smiling.

[spiritump]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The term comes from abusing the rules, not for not knowing them.

not knowing the rules and arguing about what you do not know is called a
idiratus.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Robert E. Harrison

I had a coach bet me $50 the NFHS rules keep the ball live after a balk is called. I handed him a deposit slip and the money was in my account two weeks later.
Is that unPROFESSIONAL?

Deposit slips have account numbers on them and bank numbers? Give him your social too, and he will be you in a few days and wipe you clean.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

Deposit slips have account numbers on them and

No, they don't.

[kylejt]

Well, excuse me for veering this flaming wreck back on the tracks, but the question was about uneducated coaches.

I spent the afternoon helping out three all star teams this afternoon. I went over appeals, tag ups, making the ball live, etc. with a guy who took a team the World Series. Then I worked a three hour practice game, and helped coaches, and catchers with "working" umpires.

Hey, if coaches are clueless, put part of the blame on their local UIC. Maybe he's not part of the solution. Me, I try to give our local teams every adantage I can.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, they don't.

I must differ. Every deposit slip that comes with a checking account has routing numbers and the account number at the bottom.

Sorry, Kyle, for steering this pile of steaming dog doo-doo off the track again!

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by spiritump

not knowing the rules and arguing about what you do not know is called a
idiratus.

Ignoratus. It's a derivative of ignoranus - a person (coach) who is both stupid and an a$$hole.