"Slinging the bat"

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

I have seen instances where catchers are put in the way of great personal harm from carelessly released bats. Especially those that wear skull caps and masks instead of helmets.

Carelessly discarding the bat is a FED rule. Skull caps are illegal for catchers in FED ball.

You are either applying a FED rule to other rule sets where it doesn't apply, or you are applying it in FED games while not enforcing the proper equipment rules for F2.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Carelessly discarding the bat is a FED rule. Skull caps are illegal for catchers in FED ball.

Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is a violation of UC in OBR.

You are either applying a FED rule to other rule sets where it doesn't apply, or you are applying it in FED games while not enforcing the proper equipment rules for F2.

Neither.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is a violation of UC in OBR.

Reference, please.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is a violation of UC in OBR.

Now, somebody is slinging something...

Can you offer a rule, interpretation or case play that supports this notion?

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best
Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is a violation of UC in OBR.

Originally Posted by BretMan

Now, somebody is slinging something...

Can you offer a rule, interpretation or case play that supports this notion?

UC is judgment, interp is what I consider UC. Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is UC.

Next.

[DG]

Should I ask what UC stands for, or does it matter, since I am not in sync with Simply on the subject?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

Should I ask what UC stands for, or does it matter, since I am not in sync with Simply on the subject?

Unsporting conduct.

Suffice it to say that I disagree with STB's interp on this issue. A2D.

[MikeStrybel]

9.01c & d cover Unsportsmanlike Conduct (UC) issues. I haven't seen a player 'sling' his bat after hitting a pitch in many years. Still, if it is an issue, the rules allow for you to penalize the act.

I have to admit being a bit confused why Bob tolerates belligerence from a select few here. The OP was asked by someone who wanted help but was met with condescension and outright antagonism. Some of you forget what it was like to start out or have a play that was beyond your grasp (even the pros admit that they are occassionally challenged by non-routine plays). The internet affords some insulation, especially when using a screen name. If you were teaching a clinic and an umpire asked such a question, would you ridicule that person face to face? That seems like rather 'unsportsmanlike conduct'.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is a violation of UC in OBR. UC is judgment, interp is what I consider UC. Carelessly releasing a bat where injury and harm can occur is UC.

That's what I figured you'd say, since that is the only possible thing upon which you could hang your hat. I sincerely doubt you will find any documented interpretation endorsing that ruling.

Next time we see a batter in a Major League game get fooled on a pitch, lose his grip on the bat and have the bat helicopter away from the plate in such a way that "injury and harm can occur", I guess we'll see that batter ejected.

Or maybe not.