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[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

For me its more of a term to describe behavior rather than name-call. And I think most umpires would say the same. Most of us really don't care enough to sit in the parking lot, locker room, or meetings and name call. Because the guy that would be called a "rat" simply isn't worth the time to discuss him. But if we are talking about a situation that happened, I may say it just to convey that manager's attitude at the time.

Does this really make me a worse umpire?

And as for on-field f-boming in the pro game - its a whole different animal up there. Everyone knows everyone. Its not like a 20 game varsity HS schedule or 10 series NCAA. Your talking night in night out for 5 months. Sometimes you have to act pissed off just to maintain control and integrity. Its no different than a teacher who yells at the students. Are they really pissed? No.

Everyone has their way of doing things, just because someone says something doesn't mean they MUST be a certain way or another. I know guys who do stuff on the field I could NEVER get away with, but they do because its their personality and how they get their respect. I get mine another way. We can all umpire...

So get off the high horse, the oxygen up there must be a bit thin.

In light of what I see displayed here, I would rather be here than in the sewer with some of you.

It is hypocritic to write mean spirited pieces directed at fellow umpires and then profess integrity. It is delusional to believe that using a derisive term in the 'privacy' of a forum but not elsewhere is acceptable. If you cannot say it face to face then it is hardly more than insecurity on display.

I also notice that when asked if you have coached competitive teams, the question goes unanswered. That tells the tale. Don't expect coaches to behave better than you do.

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

In light of what I see displayed here, I would rather be here than in the sewer with some of you.

It is hypocritic to write mean spirited pieces directed at fellow umpires and then profess integrity. It is delusional to believe that using a derisive term in the 'privacy' of a forum but not elsewhere is acceptable. If you cannot say it face to face then it is hardly more than insecurity on display.

I also notice that when asked if you have coached competitive teams, the question goes unanswered. That tells the tale. Don't expect coaches to behave better than you do.

You quoted me and then said nothing relevant to what I said. Whatever.

JM says it best... respect is that status quo for all until we hit SNAFU. And when it hits, that's why they have their bars and we have ours...

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

In light of what I see displayed here, I would rather be here than in the sewer with some of you.

And

It is hypocritic to write mean spirited pieces directed at fellow umpires and then profess integrity.

Hmmmmm.

[MikeStrybel]

To borrow from Richard Roeper -

Four thoughts for the price of one:

It is funny how some of you insist that coaches who try all means to win are the problem. They aren't. The rules allow competent umpires to address them. Do your job.

If a kid swipes a tag and tries to sell it, that is hardly cheating. If a player grabs his hand like he was hit, when in fact he wasn't, he is and you need to do your job. It sounds like some of you don't know how to handle these things.

I know JM and respect what he has to say. He has never been subversive to me nor show disrespect at an opposing idea. JM and I do (did) not live vicariously through kids. We chose to employ our knowledge of the game to make it more enjoyable for our children. It is sad to think that some of you think parenting is part time.

I have umpired at some of the highest levels, here and abroad. I take pride in working hard to be a good example to other umpires. In the end, some of you need to think about that before you write another put down or encourage others to accept name calling as acceptable behavior.

Happy Easter to those of you who celebrate the day.

[LilLeaguer]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

We chose to employ our knowledge of the game to make it more enjoyable for our children. It is sad to think that some of you think parenting is part time.

Are you trying to imply that we who don't choose to coach youth sports are inferior parents?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LilLeaguer

Are you trying to imply that we who don't choose to coach youth sports are inferior parents?

He'll probably call you a bad parent and then wish you a Happy Easter.

Like most rats, he's an expert at talking out of both sides of his mouth.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by LilLeaguer

Are you trying to imply that we who don't choose to coach youth sports are inferior parents?

My post was in response to a member who wrote that coaches are merely living vicariously through their kids. For every lesson taught at home, the ones of sporting fields/courts are just as important. I choose to be part of both educational processes and take exception to those who think name calling is appropriate behavior for people who are supposed to maintain a sense of integrity and discipline.

Antagonistic attitudes are regularly on display here. From those who claim you need thousands of posts to be considered an 'expert', to those who belittle rookie umpires who simply come here to read and learn, it is sad. Umpires have enough enemies.

[LilLeaguer]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

My post was in response to a member who wrote that coaches are merely living vicariously through their kids.

If you had meant to send a private message, there are features on this forum for that. Then it would be just an irrelevant personal insult used in a heated argument. But you made it in public, and you seemed to be calling a broad group of folks out with the name, "part-time parents." I read this forum; I don't coach youth sports. As I read your public post, I meet the criteria for your derogatory remark.

I'll ask again, did you intend to call me by that name?

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by LilLeaguer

If you had meant to send a private message, there are features on this forum for that.

I responded to a public post. I did not need to send a PM.

Then it would be just an irrelevant personal insult used in a heated argument. But you made it in public, and you seemed to be calling a broad group of folks out with the name, "part-time parents."

It was hardly an insult. I explained why I coach already. Others have stated that when they coached they behaved poorly. I prefer to have my son see a good example of how it is done. Another stated that coaches are merely living vicariously through their kids. Maybe some are, but painting with a broad brush is dangerous.

I read this forum; I don't coach youth sports. As I read your public post, I meet the criteria for your derogatory remark.

I'll ask again, did you intend to call me by that name?

Do you have children who are engaged in competitive sports at the moment?

If you engage in bad behavior that your children see then yes, that is part time parenting. I prefer to set a good example whenever I am on the field - as umpire or coach.