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[ManInBlue]

R1 would not be out if B had a 1-1 count when this happened - would he? B out, R1 returns...

Someone tell me if lost my mind.


Otherwise, I agree - strike 3 B out and R1 out b/c of INT.

[Chris Viverito]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

R1 would not be out if B had a 1-1 count when this happened - would he? B out, R1 returns...

Someone tell me if lost my mind.


Otherwise, I agree - strike 3 B out and R1 out b/c of INT.

No, R1 would not be out if the count was 1 & 1. B2 would be out and R1 would be returned too 1st.

For my question, none of the elements may change. Here they are again:

1 & 2. 0 out. B2 strikes out, then interferes with F2, who is trying to retire R1. Is there any reason that R1 will not be called out in this situation?

[ODJ]

I get two outs on this play. If R1 isn't out by rule here, this scenario would happen every game.

[UmpJM]

ODJ,

What if the R1 had been obstructed by F3 as he took off for 2B?

JM

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chris Viverito

No, R1 would not be out if the count was 1 & 1. B2 would be out and R1 would be returned too 1st.

For my question, none of the elements may change. Here they are again:

1 & 2. 0 out. B2 strikes out, then interferes with F2, who is trying to retire R1. Is there any reason that R1 will not be called out in this situation?

98.3% of the time, R1 will also be out. But, if F1 mistakenly pitches from a wind-up, or R1 is a state 30-yard dash champ, and F2 has a rag arm, and the pitch is a change in the dirt that F2 doesn't catch cleanly, ...

It's happened once to me in my career where I sent the runner back instead of getting an out.

[Chris Viverito]

Thanks for the replies. I asked this question because I have an issue with the wording in the rules book. All of these suggested possibilities seem to apply to the wording logically. I'll try to remember that there is a 1.7% chance that the penalty will be to return the runners rather than call the out. As usual - it comes down to my judgment - which is usually horse poo-doo anyway. Of that there is a 99.347 % chance...unless I've been drinking Red Bull.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Chris Viverito

99.347 % chance.

There is probably a slightly higher chance that your going to have to toss the Coach after he tells you that that is, a "horsesh*t call" , "your terrible".
"I can't believe you can call something like that," "You have no clue what your doing," "Your trying to hose us", "Your father wears high heel shoes," and my all time best, "Your ugly too."

Have a good season

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by jicecone

There is probably a slightly higher chance that your going to have to toss the Coach after he tells you that that is, a "horsesh*t call" , "your terrible".
"I can't believe you can call something like that," "You have no clue what your doing," "Your trying to hose us", "Your father wears high heel shoes," and my all time best, "Your ugly too."

Have a good season

"Coach, I had already inferred you were displeased by my call. Did you have a question?"

JM

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by jicecone
There is probably a slightly higher chance that your going to have to toss the Coach after he tells you that that is, a "horsesh*t call" , "your terrible".
"I can't believe you can call something like that," "You have no clue what your doing," "Your trying to hose us", "Your father wears high heel shoes," and my all time best, "Your ugly too."

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

"Coach, I had already inferred you were displeased by my call. Did you have a question?"

The cute one-liner is not only unnecessary it will only further inflame an out of control coach.

"Coach, did you have a question?" is simple, direct and doesn't buy you an unneeded continuation of harassment or argument.

[Chris Viverito]

Originally Posted by jicecone

There is probably a slightly higher chance that your going to have to toss the Coach after he tells you that that is, a "horsesh*t call" , "your terrible".
"I can't believe you can call something like that," "You have no clue what your doing," "Your trying to hose us", "Your father wears high heel shoes," and my all time best, "Your ugly too."

Have a good season

Right...but the chance goes down exponentially if it is raining, very very cold out...or very very hot.

Thanks J. Best to you too.

[DG]

Originally Posted by jicecone

"your terrible".

Adios...