NFHS Baseball Test Part 1

[Welpe]

Figures. Where did they get that from? So perpetuates the myth.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Figures. Where did they get that from? So perpetuates the myth.

The rule book, actually.

10-1-4a "As an aid in deciding, the umpire may note whether the swing carried the barrel of the bat past the body of the batter, but [the] final decision is based on whether the batter actually struck at the ball."

For Fed, D is definitely the right answer.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

The rule book, actually.

10-1-4a "As an aid in deciding, the umpire may note whether the swing carried the barrel of the bat past the body of the batter, but [the] final decision is based on whether the batter actually struck at the ball."

For Fed, C is definitely the right answer.

Exactly my point, C is the correct answer so where did they get D may be used as "an aid" is not the same thing as "Base his decision as to whether the swing carried the barrel of the bat past the body of the batter."

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Exactly my point, C is the correct answer so where did they get D may be used as "an aid" is not the same thing as "Base his decision as to whether the swing carried the barrel of the bat past the body of the batter."

Sorry, fixed my post but not fast enough. D is definitely correct as, by rule, you are to consider A.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Sorry, fixed my post but not fast enough. D is definitely correct as, by rule, you are to consider A.

I admit to being a little confused, I should have assumed you meant D but it fit my point better the other way.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Sorry, fixed my post but not fast enough. D is definitely correct as, by rule, you are to consider A.

Eastshire,

Would you consider "A" determinate on whether the batter "offered" on a bunt?

JM

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Eastshire,

Would you consider "A" determinate on whether the batter "offered" on a bunt?

JM

Don't roll your eyes at me; I didn't write the rule. I agree that it's not a good way to look at it; but when you take a Fed rules test, you answer according to Fed rules.

Do I in practice care about the end of the barrel? No. That doesn't change how I answer the test question though.

[MikeStrybel]

Pull out the supplement and read what they write about a bunt attempt.

Attempted bunts are treated differently. Merely holding the bat in the strike zone does not necessarily constitute a strike. The umpire must be convinced the batter was trying to touch the ball. A batter may actually attempt a bunt by letting the pitched ball strike the static bat, or he may actually attempt to touch the ball while retracting the bat (thus deadening the bunt.)

It is important to note that they say touch and not strike at the pitch when considering a bunt.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

The rule book, actually.

10-1-4a "As an aid in deciding, the umpire may note whether the swing carried the barrel of the bat past the body of the batter, but [the] final decision is based on whether the batter actually struck at the ball."

The important parts of 10-1-4a are in bold.

No change in rule or practice.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

The important parts of 10-1-4a are in bold.

No change in rule or practice.

And clearly C is the correct answer regardless of the spin the IHSA wishes to put on it. The bat coming in front of the plate is a "may" and therefore A is too strongly worded. Not that I care. Even if I had this question and the NFHS marked it wrong, it just drops me from a 100 to a 99 and life goes on.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And clearly C is the correct answer regardless of the spin the IHSA wishes to put on it.

According to the 2011 NHFS Baseball supplement that is not the case. The IHSA does not publish that material, they just distribute it for us to read and learn. No spin required.

Enjoy your season.

[UmpJM]

Ultimately, it was the 10.1.3 case play language that persuaded me that "D" was the answer they were looking for on the test.

JM

[jicecone]

I used to look forward to spending time on the tests and looking up the rules each year and getting my usual 95-100.

Now in La. this year we took a web-based exam. Sixty questions in 60 minutes, which didn't seem bad at first except when most of the questions took 30 seconds to read and figure out what the heck the question was. Then 3-4 answers that were sometimes as long as the questions.

The review W E L L, that gave us the questions we were asked, sometimes the correct answer (sometimes) and if you were lucky you could actually have the ability to see the entire question asked.

Anyone with a copy of this years test,... I would welcome the email. Yes I am 9 games into the season but always looking to stay on top of this.

End of story: I got an 82 and the test requirement was thrown out for this year but, we did have to buy new hats, shirts and jackets (if you wanted to do any playoffs) and you would never guess that only one supplier had them, coincidentally of course.

Enjoy your season gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

According to the 2011 NHFS Baseball supplement that is not the case. The IHSA does not publish that material, they just distribute it for us to read and learn. No spin required.

Enjoy your season.

I couldn't possibly care. I haven't read any of the supplemental tripe they've put out in years, including their manual and anything other than the rule and case book. I know how to handle a check swing without being told how to by the NFHS.

Oh, and enjoy your season, too. Mine will probably not start this weekend.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

According to the 2011 NHFS Baseball supplement that is not the case. The IHSA does not publish that material, they just distribute it for us to read and learn. No spin required.

Enjoy your season.

Does anyone have a PDF of the Supplement? I forgot to grab one at my rules meeting.