Help me win a bet

dileonardoja · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 10:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

This brings up a good point that I meant to mention earlier. The general interp is that the runner hasn't passed the base until he's entirely (trailing foot) past the base.

Interesting! So hypothetically the lead foot passes the bag, then the throw is caught, then the trail foot steps over the bag (missing it). The signal is Out?

dash_riprock · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 10:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

Interesting! So hypothetically the lead foot passes the bag, then the throw is caught, then the trail foot steps over the bag (missing it). The signal is Out?

Correct. The B/R has not yet acquired the base so the play at 1st is not an appeal.

MikeStrybel · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 10:22am

I guess I work games where the base coaches are actually aware of what is happening. In all my years, I have never witnessed a player run by first base and the coach didn't yell for him to touch it. The closest I ever came was when the shortstop hung the firstbaseman out down the line. The two collided and the BR rolled past the base and into foul territory. sure enough, the first base coach was screaming for him to collect himself and hit the bag before the pitcher, who had by now recovered the ball, tagged him. He did and I was deprived of another example of our crazy game at work.

Clouds and 40 for the first game this Wednesday...up from the original 38 forecast. Break out the sunblock!

Rich Ives · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 11:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

In all my years, I have never witnessed a player run by first base and the coach didn't yell for him to touch it. !

Darn -we need to train the coaches better. Why alert the defense to the miss?

DG · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 12:42pm

In a game last year we had a BR miss 1b on a HR ball. I was PU and watching the ball down the LF line, clearly fair. Afterwards the defense appealed and BU called him out. I asked after game how bad he missed and he said 2 feet. 1b coach did not tell him to come back.

It was the home team's batter in the 5th inning and game end up going extra innings and home team lost in the 8th.

yawetag · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 20, 2011, 09:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

Clouds and 40 for the first game this Wednesday...up from the original 38 forecast. Break out the sunblock!

Sunny and 68 for me on Wednesday. I've already placed my bulk order of ice.

JJ · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 24, 2011, 09:02pm

So if the BR passes 1B without touching, then the throw arrives to the base, then the BR returns to 1B, then the defense appeals he missed it the first time, the BR is safe?
It's such a complicated game...

JJ

PS Flurries and 39 here all weekend for my "home" opener....I got really spoiled doing my first 30 games in Florida...."Honey, where did I pack my long underwear last Fall?"...

MikeStrybel · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 24, 2011, 10:10pm

JJ,
My first week was snowed out so I'm going to bed dreaming of a beach and a bottle of rum. Off to Spring Break in St. Thomas in the morning.

To my baseball brethren, I wish you well this week and hope you stay safe out there. Thanks for the great discussions this week - esepcially when we disagree. Those ones make me a better umpire and that's the goal.

dash_riprock · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 24, 2011, 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ

So if the BR passes 1B without touching, then the throw arrives to the base, then the BR returns to 1B, then the defense appeals he missed it the first time, the BR is safe?

Yes. He corrected the miss before the appeal.

MrUmpire · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 24, 2011, 11:06pm

Did you win the bet?