Video, what do you have?

[chuckfan1]

YouTube - Eto-Roth Out (Baseball v. WAB)


College Game , So Calif
Ive shown this around a bit, and have gotten a few different responses.
- A couple say "nothing" as they believe R3 was trying to get to the plate, and nothing malicious, noting R3's actions to help F1 after the play.
--Possible malicious due to the elbow getting up there.
--INT on R3 for not trying to get to the plate, but instead going "at" the catcher and trying to dislodge..

What say you...

[UmpJM]

chuckfan,

From what I see on the video, I'll go with Door #1 - an out and nothing else.

JM

[jicecone]

Hey Chuck, still with Suffolk County?

I have a runner that still does not know how to slide and is clumsy too, play on.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Hey Chuck, still with Suffolk County?

I have a runner that still does not know how to slide and is clumsy too, play on.

+1. Lousy slide. He's out.

[Rich]

Here's another interesting video:

YouTube - Balk-Lead RBI-Single (WC - Game 1)

Balk first, then a play at the plate at the end.

[UmpJM]

Rich,

I'm guessing a college game???

For the life of me, I'm not seeing the balk. (Could be the video angle, I guess - or maybe I'm just missing it.)

And why no obstruction on the play at the plate?

I did think the PU did a nice job dodging the on-deck batter/wannabe home plate base coach.

JM

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Here's another interesting video:

YouTube - Balk-Lead RBI-Single (WC - Game 1)

Balk first, then a play at the plate at the end.

I have no OBS in any code. F2 did not "deny complete access to the base."

[chuckfan1]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Here's another interesting video:

YouTube - Balk-Lead RBI-Single (WC - Game 1)

Balk first, then a play at the plate at the end.

Thats me on the bases. He did balk. With no runners he had a different set, as you see on the next pitch which was the base hit. With runners he would come set "slower". Hard to tell from this video, but it was a bounce. This was early in the game, and I had told him need to see a better stop.

As for the play at the plate, my partner did a great job of getting position, and waiting for the play to finish. No OBS here. Catcher dropped the ball, and went after it, in doing so, plenty of access to the plate for the runner.

As for the clip I posted on the play with F2 tossing to F1, I dont have anything malicious. But Im leaning towards INT. Whatever R3 did after the play, giving the guy a pat on the tush etc, doesnt negate what happened prior. Hes not sliding "to" the plate. Hes sliding , horizontal, into F1. Trying to dislodge the ball. What we heard in Phoenix was the runner needs to be trying to get to the plate. The plate, in this play is down, straight ahead. Not straight ahead into F1.
Yeah, its not a train wreck, but the runner here, to me, is not trying to get to the plate. Hes trying to get to the plate, up through F1.

Showed this to a long time veteran D1 guy, and he indicated he had INT

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Here's another interesting video:

YouTube - Balk-Lead RBI-Single (WC - Game 1)

Balk first, then a play at the plate at the end.

Don't you think PU would've been okay working the apex of the plate there?

Seemed like he was looking up the runners backside at the end of the play.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by chuckfan1

YouTube - Eto-Roth Out (Baseball v. WAB)

--INT on R3 for not trying to get to the plate, but instead going "at" the catcher and trying to dislodge..

What say you...

No way on this option. No contact with F2...no problem.

[jicecone]

Not a "complete and discernable stop." Notice the difference between the first set and the next one. Some pitchers believe that if they snap the arms and hands into the set position, that constitutes a "stop." Wrong.

Play at plate, only watched once. In Fed I have OBS, in NCAA I have nothing.
In OBR, just kids play.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by chuckfan1

YouTube - Eto-Roth Out (Baseball v. WAB)


College Game , So Calif
Ive shown this around a bit, and have gotten a few different responses.
- A couple say "nothing" as they believe R3 was trying to get to the plate, and nothing malicious, noting R3's actions to help F1 after the play.
--Possible malicious due to the elbow getting up there.
--INT on R3 for not trying to get to the plate, but instead going "at" the catcher and trying to dislodge..

What say you...

I am not dumping this kid.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I am not dumping this kid.

Me either.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I am not dumping this kid.

+1...perhaps interference but even that is a stretch I think. I'm good with play the bounce on this one.

[Chris Viverito]

An out.