First one for the year

[dash_riprock]

Did the runner attempt to avoid the catcher, assuming he had an opportunity to do so?

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Did the runner attempt to avoid the catcher, assuming he had an opportunity to do so?

He didn't appear to, no. He ran across the plate. F2 tagged him and stepped aside.

What'cha got if he didn't slide or attempt to avoid contact? An out? F2 didn't drop the ball - he was already out.

Coach's only argument was "he HAS to slide" - he didn't aruge for an EJ. So, let's go down this road...No slide, no attempt to avoid. Coach argues as this one is, you explain that a slide is not mandatory, but he must slide or attempt to avoid contact. Coach says, Well, he didn't make any attempt to avoid contact either. Now what?

[jicecone]

Did a double-header Varsity yesterday when coach comes to my partner and says that the other team is not allowed to say the word "Balk" when the pitcher is standing on the plate. Then came to me in between innings.

After I explained the difference between "Freedom of Speech" and "commiting
an act for the purpose of causing a balk", he said I didn't know anything about the rules. I said ok, turned around and went to right field.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Did a double-header Varsity yesterday when coach comes to my partner and says that the other team is not allowed to say the word "Balk" when the pitcher is standing on the plate. Then came to me in between innings.

After I explained the difference between "Freedom of Speech" and "commiting an act for the purpose of causing a balk", he said I didn't know anything about the rules. I said ok, turned around and went to right field.

Why is it that so many officials on this forum have the unending desire to be statesmen or comediennes and impending need to test coach's patience?

This was uncalled for, imo.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Why is it that so many officials on this forum have the unending desire to be statesmen or comediennes and impending need to test coach's patience?

This was uncalled for, imo.

"Why is it that so many officials on this forum have the unending desire to be" the know it all's, the English professor and the Smart arses all the time. Don't recall your name as being the "Umpire of the Year."

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by jicecone

"Why is it that so many officials on this forum have the unending desire to be" the know it all's, the English professor and the Smart arses all the time. Don't recall your name as being the "Umpire of the Year."

^^^^^^^
Look at those rolleyes. You got me, you know it.

I was International Umpire of the Year.

[jicecone]

[QUOTE=Simply The Best;739623]^^^^^^^
Look at those rolleyes. You got me, you know it.

I was International Umpire of the Year. [/QUOTE

Well Golly Gee Whiz!!!! Did you get a ribbon for that?

[rcaverly]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

The Big Dogs in the association want to work with each other after pancakes 'n beer. This dooms proper matchings; they have no interest in being astute leaders, only their self-interests. Which games with which other Big Dogs and the paychecks that come their way. And IHOP pancakes and cheap beers of course.

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Why is it that so many officials on this forum have the unending desire to be statesmen or comediennes and impending need to test coach's patience? This was uncalled for, imo.

Again, do those shoes fit?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rcaverly

Again, do those shoes fit?

Please stop quoting this idiot. Those of us who have made use of the ignore list don't see his posts *unless* someone else quotes them.

I would like to know how many "In Time Out"s he and his alter ego gets before Bob deletes their accounts, myself.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I would like to know how many "In Time Out"s he and his alter ego gets before Bob deletes their accounts, myself.

I'd like to know how it is you know that I had a 24 suspension, hmmmmmmmm?

[dash_riprock]

8-4-2-c. Any runner is out when he does not legally attempt to avoid a fielder in the immediate act of making a play on him.

Penalty: The runner is out and the ball remains live unless interference occurs and is declared.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

8-4-2-c. Any runner is out when he does not legally attempt to avoid a fielder in the immediate act of making a play on him.

Penalty: The runner is out and the ball remains live unless interference occurs and is declared.

Not applicable for this case . Fielder can't be there without the ball first. Runner still must make attempt to avoid contact though. Sounds more like incidental contact here however, HTBT.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Not applicable for this case . Fielder can't be there without the ball first.

From the OP: "The ball only beat him by a step or 2."

[MikeStrybel]

We had our 11U draft yesterday (yes, I was suckered into coaching my son's team) and this topic came up. A couple of the coaches are also IHSA officials who attended one of my clinics. When the league director emphasized the safe slide rule, one of them asked about the need to slide. The league director said that they will use the IHSA rule (Fed) and runners have to slide. I informed him that he had the rule wrong. We can encourage our runners to slide when played upon but they don't have to as long as they slide legally or avoid malicious contact. Grudgingly, he accepted the ruling after confirming it in my rule book. He had been under that impression for years.

Another coach asked about the very play we are describing. The catcher is waiting for an imminent throw and is standing in front of the target base. 2-22-3 seems to fit the bill here. Imminent throws don't seem relevant to Fed rules. For high school, the fielder must have the ball before blocking a base, right?

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

For high school, the fielder must have the ball before blocking a base, right?

Yes.