The batter attempts to bunt with 2 strikes but POPS it up

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by celebur

Can you post the exact wording of this question from the NCAA exam?

My apologies for not posting the entire exam, but it is lengthy.

Here is the question from my 50 questions:

R1. The batter has fouled off the first two sacrifice bunt attempts. The batter attempts to bunt a third time but pops it up where F2 makes the catch in fould territory. R1 was moving on the pitch and F2's throw to first arrives before R1 can get back.

a. The batter is out and the ball is dead immediately.

b. R1 is not called out.

c. The result is an immediate dead ball when the catcher touches the foul pop up.

d. This results in a double play.

The answer is d.

I met with some NCAA officials who had this question too but contend that it was worded poorly. They insist that just because the throw arrived prior to the runner does not mean the runner is out and d assumes something not presented. I guess that means that they believe the play is an immediate dead ball then. Undoubtedly, I will be working the bases when this play happens to them.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

They insist that just because the throw arrived prior to the runner does not mean the runner is out and d assumes something not presented.

Translation: When they took the test they got the answer wrong and are too pig-headed to admit they were wrong.

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Translation: When they took the test they got the answer wrong and are too pig-headed to admit they were wrong.

My thoughts exactly! I see nothing left out here. It's rather straight forward.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Translation: When they took the test they got the answer wrong and are too pig-headed to admit they were wrong.

There is an appeal process, 10 days I think after the test. I have done it and you win some and some they simply will not admit so you get no relief. I used to think it important to appeal when the answer key is wrong, but since they are pig-headed I no longer do it.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

My apologies for not posting the entire exam, but it is lengthy.

Here is the question from my 50 questions:

R1. The batter has fouled off the first two sacrifice bunt attempts. The batter attempts to bunt a third time but pops it up where F2 makes the catch in fould territory. R1 was moving on the pitch and F2's throw to first arrives before R1 can get back.

a. The batter is out and the ball is dead immediately.

b. R1 is not called out.

c. The result is an immediate dead ball when the catcher touches the foul pop up.

d. This results in a double play.

The answer is d.

I met with some NCAA officials who had this question too but contend that it was worded poorly. They insist that just because the throw arrived prior to the runner does not mean the runner is out and d assumes something not presented. I guess that means that they believe the play is an immediate dead ball then. Undoubtedly, I will be working the bases when this play happens to them.

I don't see any problem with the wording of this question. It's a foul out and a successful retouch appeal on R1. 2 outs. What does answer "d" assume that wasn't presented? The only thing I can think of is that the question doesn't say the base was tagged. "F2's throw to first arrives before R1 can get back" is enough for me.

[MikeStrybel]

The old Fed test used to be this way. Some umpires read things that weren't there and sometimes the rule writers meant to write one thing but didn't, thus corrections to scores.

In other news, I just read that three MLB umpires are officially retiring, giving the chance to guys who have been waiting a long time. That's nice to see.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

In other news, I just read that three MLB umpires are officially retiring, giving the chance to guys who have been waiting a long time. That's nice to see.

And old news. Promotions were announced some time ago.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

My apologies for not posting the entire exam, but it is lengthy.

Here is the question from my 50 questions:

R1. The batter has fouled off the first two sacrifice bunt attempts. The batter attempts to bunt a third time but pops it up where F2 makes the catch in fould territory. R1 was moving on the pitch and F2's throw to first arrives before R1 can get back.

a. The batter is out and the ball is dead immediately.

b. R1 is not called out.

c. The result is an immediate dead ball when the catcher touches the foul pop up.

d. This results in a double play.

The answer is d.

Did you answer d? I thought you answered that it was a dead ball, and you later said you got it right. But here you say that d is correct, so I'm confused about that.

I met with some NCAA officials who had this question too but contend that it was worded poorly. They insist that just because the throw arrived prior to the runner does not mean the runner is out and d assumes something not presented. I guess that means that they believe the play is an immediate dead ball then. Undoubtedly, I will be working the bases when this play happens to them.

Or it could mean that they think b is correct; that answer does not assume a dead ball, and it does not assume that the appeal was properly executed.