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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 04:50am
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Thanks for letting us know what you're not doing. Keep us posted.
The point is that the OP is so vague that it took someone asking what he meant for any reasonable answer to be given. How hard would it have been for him to mention LLWS somewhere in his post, instead of making a statement that assumes we were either watching what he was watching or reading his mind?
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 10:41am
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How do you get knocked cold by a Little Leaguer?
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 11:14am
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I am not so sure he got knocked out cold but, I remember saying to my wife that that, was a similar shot that I took last year and convinced me to get a West Vest.

The ball seemed to get behind his throat protector and it wasn't clear what it hit.
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 11:16am
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How do you get knocked cold by a Little Leaguer?
Some of those kids are throwing in the mid 70's, which is about the speed a lot of high school varsity pitchers throw. Plus, they're much closer at 46'.

The pitches are shown being equated at over 90 mph at the shorter distance.
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 12:14pm
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Plus, they're much closer at 46'.
The distance has (almost) nothing to do with the force the ball imparts. 70 mph is 70 mph, whether thrown from 46', 60', 250'

(Clarification: A ball thrown at 70 mph from 250' will slow down more than a ball thrown at 70 mph from 46'. So, by the time the ball hits the target, it will be moving slower and impart less force. Someone else can do the math. The difference between 46' and 60' is not going to be significant from a practical matter in this case.)
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Old Sat Aug 28, 2010, 02:34pm
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The distance has (almost) nothing to do with the force the ball imparts. 70 mph is 70 mph, whether thrown from 46', 60', 250'

(Clarification: A ball thrown at 70 mph from 250' will slow down more than a ball thrown at 70 mph from 46'. So, by the time the ball hits the target, it will be moving slower and impart less force. Someone else can do the math. The difference between 46' and 60' is not going to be significant from a practical matter in this case.)
Some folks can fire a cannon that appears to float though the air for longer periods of time than others thrown at the very same speed. Gravity and spin can't explain it all, but drag and lift can.

Now assuming both balls will come to a stop, some folks will say the two balls slow down the same amount, 70mph to 0 mph. But I know what you mean about their deceleration.

In related news, Reds prospect clocked at 105 mph.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big...urn=mlb-265783
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Old Sat Aug 28, 2010, 04:02pm
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I think a pitch does lose significant velocity over those added 14 feet (from 46' to 60'). I can only guess how much, but even a 10 percent reduction would greatly affect the force at contact.

I'm puzzled at the mph estimates, too. Aren't change-ups in MLB in the 70s? (When the catcher flips the ball back to the pitcher, the scoreboard still shows speed in the 50s or 60s.) I thought that while 90 mph might be a decent fastball, 80 mph was just batting practice.
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Old Sat Aug 28, 2010, 04:43pm
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On average, a pitch will lose 1 mph for every 7' it travels.

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Old Mon Aug 30, 2010, 12:03pm
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Hope he gets a season in before its time for ole Tommy John.
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Old Tue Aug 31, 2010, 11:37pm
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Hope he gets a season in before its time for ole Tommy John.
He got in the game tonight - 8th inning in an 8 to 2 game. Struck out the first batter and got two ground outs. Something like 10 out of 11 for strikes. Touched 102 on the gun.

I was listening to the WLW postgame and they were giddy like little schoolgirls over this guy.

Just don't let Chapman watch the video of Zumaya or Strasburg.

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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 08:32pm
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I just saw a replay and it looks like the ball got in under the throat protector and hit him in the throat.
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Old Wed Aug 25, 2010, 12:02am
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Several of the umpires have taken shots. Sometimes the ball is going to find you; however, it's very important to wear pro gear. That way when the ball hits where it's suppose to you are protected.
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Old Wed Aug 25, 2010, 08:43am
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Some of those kids are throwing in the mid 70's, which is about the speed a lot of high school varsity pitchers throw. Plus, they're much closer at 46'.

The pitches are shown being equated at over 90 mph at the shorter distance.
Steven do you understand when the use "equivalent speeds" they are talking about reaction time of the batter? It has nothing to do with speed at all.

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I happened to be watching this game when it happened. The umpire appeared to have the ball deflect off his chest protector and hit him in the throat/jaw area. It could have happened to a lot of us but this guy was on TV.

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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 03:09pm
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How do you get knocked cold by a Little Leaguer?

Some of these 'kids' are bigger than the umpires.
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Old Tue Aug 24, 2010, 03:15pm
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What kind of chest protector.

From the replay, it looked like it was a pitch that was fouled back and bounced off the chest protector upward and caught him in the jaw. I can see why he went down. He will be back doing another game tonight.
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