CT vs RI New England Regional Video

[REFANDUMP]

In looking at this play, I think a case could be made for the batter not making a reasonable attempt to get out of the way of the pitch. I'm curious if the replay umpire could have overruled that if that was the opinion of the home plate umpire.

[JJ]

"...despite an honest effort by a good man to help correct an obvious wrong."

It wasn't obvious to the entire umpiring crew on the field. Obviously.

JJ

[GoodwillRef]

If the informed the coaches before the game they were using reply there sure didn't seem that way from the looks on the white teams coaches.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If the informed the coaches before the game they were using reply there sure didn't seem that way from the looks on the white teams coaches.

Any good coach would have protested this on the spot.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

In looking at this play, I think a case could be made for the batter not making a reasonable attempt to get out of the way of the pitch. I'm curious if the replay umpire could have overruled that if that was the opinion of the home plate umpire.

Not even close.
1) The pitch was in the batter's box, where it dosen't belong. Bater's box belongs to the batter,
2) Watch the video again (Part 1), as the pitch comes in the batter starts to lower his stance (watch his knees) as he can see it's going to be a low pitch
and that if he's going to swing at it he's going to have to "go down and get it."

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Not even close.
1) The pitch was in the batter's box, where it dosen't belong. Bater's box belongs to the batter,
2) Watch the video again (Part 1), as the pitch comes in the batter starts to lower his stance (watch his knees) as he can see it's going to be a low pitch
and that if he's going to swing at it he's going to have to "go down and get it."

The batter could have made some attempt...it is a curve ball and it looks like he is a smart batter and lets it hit him...it is a 1-0 game.

[johnnyg08]

How old are these kids again?

I highly doubt the batter knew it was going to hit the top of his shoe. Let's be serious here. The thing on his mind was probably what kind of pizza he was going to have after the game (not that there's anything wrong with thinking about that at 12 or however old these kids are)

[ODJ]

The LL Rep was in the squirrel costume, who was the other guy?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

The batter could have made some attempt...it is a curve ball and it looks like he is a smart batter and lets it hit him...it is a 1-0 game.

Actually it was one of doz dere political conspiracies. The Taliban are trying to take over LL players and then do one of does mind changing experiments on dem. This year baseball, next year bomb carrying terrorist..

Get the LL officials to change their call and next thing you know they will be running for President and building religious sites on existing LL fields and then wanting to take over Babe Ruth and Pony baseball.

Got some land in Florida for sale, interested?

[REFANDUMP]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Not even close.
1) The pitch was in the batter's box, where it dosen't belong. Bater's box belongs to the batter,
2) Watch the video again (Part 1), as the pitch comes in the batter starts to lower his stance (watch his knees) as he can see it's going to be a low pitch
and that if he's going to swing at it he's going to have to "go down and get it."

I disagree. Being in the batters box does not eliminate the requirement for a batter to make a reasonable attempt to get out of the way of the pitch as I understand the rule. I'm not claiming that I would have made that ruling, but I do think a legitimate case could be made for making such a call. I will always give the batter the benefit of the doubt if they turn, lean, etc. but I don't feel that this batter necessarily did any of these actions.

[KJUmp]

The pitch was down in the dirt.
His "move" was he started to lower his stance to go down to get the pitch...his initial instinct was to hit the ball.
This sitch was not an example of a batter not making a reasonable effort to aviod a HBP.
As bad as a cluster flub this sitch was 4 umps, 2 of them what...75 ft. away and they can't see an HBP, and then the ensuing "oh let's go to the video replay" by the meddling, all knowing, lets inject ourselves into the umpiring of the game, LLBB Eastern Region administrative and UIC staff, all you have is a missed call. Going with the other call you have a bad application of a rule.

[johnnyg08]

using Papa C's words, only Smitty calls the hitter back for not moving on that pitch...$hitty end of the stick there fellas. No way, no how, (assuming you have a hit by pitch) do you keep the batter batting on that pitch.

[LMan]

The umpire told him that he just wanted to get the call correct.

There was the root of the problem.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

I disagree. Being in the batters box does not eliminate the requirement for a batter to make a reasonable attempt to get out of the way of the pitch as I understand the rule. I'm not claiming that I would have made that ruling, but I do think a legitimate case could be made for making such a call. I will always give the batter the benefit of the doubt if they turn, lean, etc. but I don't feel that this batter necessarily did any of these actions.

I can't believe you really have been doing this for a long time.

The umpire (the guy behind the catcher, not the replay official) didn't even see the ball hit the player, let alone, hit him on purpose.

Do you also brush off the bases?

[REFANDUMP]

Originally Posted by jicecone

I can't believe you really have been doing this for a long time.

The umpire (the guy behind the catcher, not the replay official) didn't even see the ball hit the player, let alone, hit him on purpose.

Do you also brush off the bases?

WHAT DID I SAY THAT DESERVED THIS SMART A** RESPONSE FROM YOU !!! I stated that I PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THIS CALL however am I incorrect in saying that a batter must make a reasonable attempt to avoid being hit by a pitch ???

F.Y.I. ... I have been umpiring a long time (over 30 years to be exact). I think I have some clue about the game !!!