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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 11:41am
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It's Gardenshire! You just expect him to get tossed, no big deal anymore.
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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 11:57am
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As for the call and Marquez's appearance and behavior during the argument: embarrassing, unprofessional, astounding, horrible ... anyone?
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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 06:46pm
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As for the call and Marquez's appearance and behavior during the argument: embarrassing, unprofessional, astounding, horrible ... anyone?
Par for the course in Marquez's game.
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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 12:01pm
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It's Gardenshire! You just expect him to get tossed, no big deal anymore.
So, Gardenhire didn't have a case here? What has happened to MLB umpiring? This continuing sequence of inexplicably missed calls is disturbing. Maybe he was reaching for a snack instead of watching the play.
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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 01:01pm
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So, Gardenhire didn't have a case here? What has happened to MLB umpiring? This continuing sequence of inexplicably missed calls is disturbing. Maybe he was reaching for a snack instead of watching the play.
He did.

But, did you ever hear the story about the little boy that cried "Wolf" all the time.
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 08:34am
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[QUOTE=Dakota;684314] What has happened to MLB umpiring? This continuing sequence of inexplicably missed calls is disturbing. QUOTE]

Replay...replay...replay...
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 01:16pm
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Replay...replay...replay...
Great. More of that rubbish now.
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 01:31pm
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Getting back on topic, Part B...
Here is something else that I noticed when thinking about it some more (after reading other comments). Where is the call? If you are going to make a no-tag call it had better be immediate and loud.

Looking at the "live" wide-angle, the call is not made until the runner reaches 3B, not when the tag is missed. This makes me think that he either blinked or wanted to screw it up.

Your thoughts?
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 02:01pm
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wanted to screw it up.
Unless you think he's related to Tim Donaghy, I'm pretty sure this isn't it.
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 04:39pm
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Unless you think he's related to Tim Donaghy, I'm pretty sure this isn't it.
I don't think he did, it was merely hyperbole.
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 03:33pm
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Here is something else that I noticed when thinking about it some more (after reading other comments). Where is the call? If you are going to make a no-tag call it had better be immediate and loud.

Looking at the "live" wide-angle, the call is not made until the runner reaches 3B, not when the tag is missed. This makes me think that he either blinked or wanted to screw it up.

Your thoughts?
Making an out call when the tag is applied takes care of this.

Not making an out call when the tag is missed (and the runner has not reached the base) also takes care of this.
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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 04:52pm
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Here is something else that I noticed when thinking about it some more (after reading other comments). Where is the call? If you are going to make a no-tag call it had better be immediate and loud.

Looking at the "live" wide-angle, the call is not made until the runner reaches 3B, not when the tag is missed. This makes me think that he either blinked or wanted to screw it up.

Your thoughts?
I completely disagree with you. He should do nothing. Because I think you only need one signal. He is not safe until he gets back to the base, not in the middle of the running lane where a possible tag might be made. One signal and one call. Because is he going to give multiple tag signals on several tag attempts and then call him out when he is finally out?

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Old Tue Jul 06, 2010, 07:15pm
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I completely disagree with you. He should do nothing. Because I think you only need one signal. He is not safe until he gets back to the base, not in the middle of the running lane where a possible tag might be made. One signal and one call. Because is he going to give multiple tag signals on several tag attempts and then call him out when he is finally out?

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The tag was a "play" and deserves a call. If the tag had been missed, then both the runer and the fielder need to know it so they can then act appropriately.
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Great. More of that rubbish now.


It's either that, or go with Pete's suggestion about MLB taking over umpire development.
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