TB @ MIN - "Missed" Tag at 3B in the 10th :eek:

[Ump Rube]

Top Plays | TB@MIN: Gardenhire is ejected arguing a play at third - Video | twinsbaseball.com: Multimedia

I absolutely do not understand how anyone can make this call. I am not saying it changes the game (go-ahead already scored), but it really took the life out of the crowd to have to sit for another batter. Here are my thoughts about making that call...

1. If he did miss, and he didn't, how can you possibly make that call when the runner stops.
2. If you are going to make that call, it had better be 100% right. You had better see clear daylight between the runner and glove.

Also, what was Marquez thinking when Gardy came out? Isn't one of the guidelines for meeting a manager that you meet him in the grass so he cannot kick dirt on you? Not many MLB mangers left that would do this, but I think Gardy would be on the list. (This wasn't in the video, but I was at the game)

[johnnyg08]

There's no way he saw daylight from that angle either. You can't defend that. That is an out.

[zm1283]

How did he not see the tag? The play was directly in front of him. I don't know how you could possibly defend that call.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by zm1283

How did he not see the tag? The play was directly in front of him. I don't know how you could possibly defend that call.

Wait an hour...they'll come to his rescue...

[SAump]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Wait an hour...they'll come to his rescue...

Timing was quick too.

[Welpe]

Love the bag of seeds hanging out of his pocket.

[MD Longhorn]

Wow. Our boys at the top are taking a beating lately. I too can't see how this one could be missed. Wow.

[jicecone]

When will the apology and confession come out?

[scarolinablue]

So a bag of seeds and spitting them on the field is considered OK for a professional umpire? I wouldn't even consider that on a HS or Legion field but maybe that's just me. Horrible call.

[youngump]

Note the caption on the video: Gardenhire ejected for arguing **close** play at third.
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[Kevin Finnerty]

The seeds thing is absolutely dumbfounding.

A partner to me last Sunday after putting a seed bag to his mouth in B or C position at least a dozen times: "What do you have for me?"

Me: "Ballplayers started out as boorish, undisciplined slobs. Umpires started out dressed in top hats and coats and ties. We haven't evolved far enough to allow for eating from a bag and spitting out the remains, while we're supposed to be working. And I'm not even talking about moving up, I'm talking about respecting the level of play you're working now."

Seeds being poured in the mouth on a field is unprofessional.

[PeteBooth]

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I absolutely do not understand how anyone can make this call. I am not saying it changes the game (go-ahead already scored), but it really took the life out of the crowd to have to sit for another batter. Here are my thoughts about making that call

I normally side with the men in blue as thay have been taking a "beating" lately but this call "takes the cake" If he does not get repremanded by MLB I do not know what will.

Let's put in this way.

If any of us made that kind of a call in HS varsity / Legion etc. it might be our last game at that level for a while. My assignor would get a call in a "heartbeat" over a call like that. The conversation would go something along the lines of "How can you send us this guy. He hasn't got a clue. He is not ready for this level etc. etc".

We ALL make mistakes but how can a professional umpire miss that one.

I bet there is some Minor league umpire chomping at the bit to get "their shot" when they see calls like this.

It's time for MLB to do "something" meaning take over umpire development. Improve the pay at the minor league level so that you get more of a draw AND hold umpires more accountable. If you make a call like that I am not saying that should be your last game BUT on the same token you shoud have to earn your way back.

Pete Booth

[Durham]

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube;684272

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If any of us made that kind of a call in HS varsity / Legion etc. it might be our last game at that level for a while. My assignor would get a call in a "heartbeat" over a call like that. The conversation would go something along the lines of "How can you send us this guy. He hasn't got a clue. He is not ready for this level etc. etc".

Pete Booth

The call was missed, but one thing to remember is that anyone of us missed this call inone of our games there is very little that could be done to get us to agree that we missed it. No video proof. So our assignor might get a call, but without proof like this video most good assignors would protect the umpire.

Like I said, he missed it, but I don't think we can equate missing a call like this to our games because of the simple fact that in our games we do the best we can and some times miss them and miss them big, but no one can prove it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Durham

The call was missed, but one thing to remember is that anyone of us missed this call inone of our games there is very little that could be done to get us to agree that we missed it. No video proof. So our assignor might get a call, but without proof like this video most good assignors would protect the umpire.

Like I said, he missed it, but I don't think we can equate missing a call like this to our games because of the simple fact that in our games we do the best we can and some times miss them and miss them big, but no one can prove it.

I completely agree. If you listen to coaches on much closer plays in our games, you would think everything was so obvious and we are not in the position this umpire was. Just like you said there are no video evidence and even some high profile games I have worked I cannot think of many games with video to support or go against any call I have ever made. Even at my State Final they did not tape the games. I do not know how our career would be over on a call like this as it would be the usual "He said...He said" type of conversation.

Peace

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by Durham

No video proof.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Just like you said there are no video evidence and even some high profile games I have worked I cannot think of many games with video to support or go against any call I have ever made. Even at my State Final they did not tape the games.

Don't count on there being no tape of it. Just none you know about yet.

Now, if this is you, it is some of your best work.
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