well, THERE's a new one
 

OU-Va superregional:

"if the batter swung at it, then the hands are part of the bat. If he didn't, then they aren't."


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bottom 8th

Batter showing bunt. PU said he didn't offer, batter was hit by the pitch. Then they got together and ruled he offered.

I was just coming back into the room when they showed the last replay. I didn't think he offered - waiting for another look.

If you saw it, your thoughts?

LMan: I deleted my thread... you win this one. ;)

Just got back in the house in the midst of that. To me it either hit him or it didn't. In this instance, he was pulling the bat back and not offering at the ball, dead ball HBP. Don't know what the umpires ruled though.

The talking heads need to learn more about the game of baseball. I heard them refer to an OBS call during the Miami game and kept calling it interference. :(

we all know the hands are never part of the bat. ever. not ever. not even then.

he was either HBP or he wasn't. what was the count?

It was 0-1 when HBP.

I think talking heads just like to ...wait for it...hear themselves talk.

If he offered, it is just like swinging at the ball and getting hit. Strike. I would like to pose them a question. Can you buy a set of hands attached to the bat at Academy?

Strike... and a dead ball.


Is this a trick question? :D

Yes!!!

And we're going to use their hands for our experiment since they don't seem to use them for READING. That would require effort.:D

If you are offering at a pitch, then your hands are a part of the bat. Nothing more needs to be discussed.

I saw this play in real time. From the outfield camera it seemed that he had offered at the pitch and hit a foul ball.

Now lets still think in real time. As I was watching the play, I could hear a distinctive "TING" as the ball hit the bat. No matter if the batter was pulling the bat back or not that to me is a foul ball. If the batter had actually been hit you would not hear a "Ting" of the bat, you would hear a "thud" from the sound of the hand and the ball would not fly as far as it did. That ball went flying, again another sign it did not hit his hand. I learned this a while back in a Sophs game. Stop, Look and Listen, its not only for crossing Train Tracks.

Now actually I think they got the call correct when they all got together. However I can see why the OK coach got pissed off when PU reversed the call and brought his batter back to the plate.

Citation, please.

Thanks for playing. Don Pardo, tell BK47 about his consolation prize.

If the batter offers and it hits his hands, it's a dead ball strike. Certainly not the same as "the hands are part of the bat" which would imply that offering and the ball hitting the hands would be foul.

As I recall......
 

For those who didn't see the play, after a query by the VA coach (fielding team), the Umps got together to discuss it and they made the correct call.

Then, as if on queue, the OU coach who just had the call reversed, stormed out of the dugout to argue. I had to laugh as it was soooo obvious (to me anyhow) he was mugging for the fans and players - as in, I have to obligatorily argue this to make it look like I'm mad even though I really know it was the correct call.

He was "restrained" and sent back to his dugout by an assistant coach. :p

Right. So even if the ball ends up in fair territory, the ball is dead.

If the hands were part of the bat, that would be a fair ball.

To take a cue from mbyron...how many were in line ahead of him to storm the field? :D

Probably a few!

Besides, get off my case, I went to public schools. :o

Consider it payback for you yelling at me. ;)