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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 10:33pm
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I think I got it...definite EJ on this one under FED. Suppose 1) we don't usually see this type of play in FED ball around here and 2) we sometimes see it in Legion and play on. Need to tighten up a bit on my MC - I see where you can't run through the catcher as badly as this in FED. Most of the MC calls I've made in FED are of the throwing arms out into a fielder and are really obvious - plays like this my first instinct is "he is not required to slide and that's just a good hard play." But, in FED, it's more and it's MC. Got it.
Basically fielder has the ball, the runner has to avoid the contact. He can slide or try to go around, but never through.
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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 10:38pm
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Basically fielder has the ball, the runner has to avoid the contact. He can slide or try to go around, but never through.
Agreed. Typically, when the fielder is holding the ball, they'll try to get in a pickle, slide, or run around (which usually results in the out of baseline out)...never usually the sitch in the video.
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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 11:08pm
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Oh yeah. That's an easy one. Gone.
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Old Wed May 12, 2010, 11:19pm
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This is an easy ejection.

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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 01:01am
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Gone.

Hate the white shirts.

On the play before the collision, lol at the PU doing the reverse cha cha all the way back from 3B and I sure didn't see him see the runner touch the plate.
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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 01:32am
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Not only is this an ejection in FED games, it would be an ejection in most amateur adult leagues as well. In the OBR-based adult league I work, they use the NCAA FPSR for force plays and a "No Collision" (umpire judgment applies) rule that is strictly enforced by the umpires.
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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 05:03am
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This definitely a MC ejection per NFHS rules.

Monday night MTD, Jr., had a boys' 12U travel league game that uses NFHS rules and had a 12 year old pull a Pete Rose on Ray Fosse play. The player's coach was none to happy about the ejection.

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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 07:13am
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Basically fielder has the ball, the runner has to avoid the contact. He can slide or try to go around, but never through.
1) The video wouldn't load for me, so I didn't see the specific play.

2) While David's statement is correct, it doesn't mean that the only call for "going through" is MC. MC requires "intent to injure." You could also have plain old, garden variety interference here. (Runner is out, but not ejected).

3) Based on the other comments, the MC (and not just interference) is the correct call in the play presented, but let's not always jump to that conclusion.
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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 08:16am
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Like the creme colored shirts, and that is garden variety malicious contact. R3 hits the road. Quickly.
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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 10:30am
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What if catcher didn't have the ball, obstruction, do you still eject #3??????
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Old Thu May 13, 2010, 10:37am
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What if catcher didn't have the ball, obstruction, do you still eject #3??????
Yes. Malicious contact supersedes obstruction.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 07:02am
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NFHS Forum: Is this malicious?

go tell these guys Welpe!
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 09:33am
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NFHS Forum: Is this malicious?

go tell these guys Welpe!
Go back to the other board, troll.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 09:35am
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Anyone see the nice job of removing the mask by the PU in the sequence following the obvious ejection?
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 12:01pm
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NFHS Forum: Is this malicious?

go tell these guys Welpe!
Atl Blue and Bob have it right. I'm not going to go fight your (misguided) battles for you.
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