Please Help with DH Rule

[jicecone]

Sit. 1. I agree with this.

Sit 2. If Mais bats as a pinch hitter for Clavinger then there is no problem. He is allowed to reenter because he is a starter. But he is not the DH because that ended when a pinch runner came in for him.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Sit 2. If Mais bats as a pinch hitter for Clavinger then there is no problem. He is allowed to reenter because he is a starter. But he is not the DH because that ended when a pinch runner came in for him.

Wrong.

Mais was the starting DH.

Then, the pinch runner became the DH.

Then, Mais reentered, still to be the DH. None of the criteria for removing the role of the DH was met.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Sit. 1. I agree with this.

Sit 2. If Mais bats as a pinch hitter for Clavinger then there is no problem. He is allowed to reenter because he is a starter. But he is not the DH because that ended when a pinch runner came in for him.

jicecone,

The only time putting in a pinch runner for a DH who has reached base would terminate the DH role is if the pinch runner was the defensive player he was batting for.

JM

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

jicecone,

The only time putting in a pinch runner for a DH who has reached base would terminate the DH role is if the pinch runner was the defensive player he was batting for.

JM

The way I think of this: having a DH splits the offensive and defensive roles of one spot in the lineup between 2 players. If the DH plays defense or the defensive player bats -- switching roles -- the role of the DH is terminated.

Substitutions of any kind (pinch hitting, running, etc.) do not terminate the role of the DH.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The way I think of this: having a DH splits the offensive and defensive roles of one spot in the lineup between 2 players. If the DH plays defense or the defensive player plays offense -- switching roles -- the role of the DH is terminated.

Substitutions of any kind (pinch hitting, running, etc.) which do not involve the DH playing defense or the defensive player playing offense do not terminate the role of the DH.

Michael,

Fixed if for you.

John

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

jicecone,

The only time putting in a pinch runner for a DH who has reached base would terminate the DH role is if the pinch runner was the defensive player he was batting for.

JM

Correct, I blew it.

My main point was it had to be for Clavinger which I thought was not clear until I just read it again. They are both locked into same spot in the batting order.

[DG]

Last Friday night I had 4 guys play in the 2 slots, defensive player and DH, and one of them was a courtesy runner for the catcher earlier in the game. In each case the Mgr asked me if he could make the change he wanted to make and each I said yes. I wrote down every change in my notepad. If you don't write this stuff down as it happens you will get hopelessly lost.

In another game last week, there were only 3 players involved, and the opposing coach wanted to claim BOO, and then after I explained what the other team had done he wanted to claim illegal substitution and protest the game (which is not allowed). It was a really simple case and he could not grasp.